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Beyond the Waters: Oral History and the Save Our Springs Movement of Late-Twentieth-Century Austin

Beyond the Waters banner with Barton Springs as a background

This article is part of the series: History Beyond Academia

On June 7, 1990, hundreds of Austin citizens spoke before the Austin City Council in opposition to a proposed 4,000-acre real estate development upstream of Barton Springs, an iconic spring-fed swimming pool in the heart of Austin. The development, spearheaded by flamboyant businessman Jim Bob Moffett, was to be on land over the Edwards Aquifer, a groundwater reservoir that is highly sensitive to pollution. Opponents of the project were deeply concerned about the potential impact of the development on water quality in the pool and the pool’s long-term health. The hearing ran into the following morning, and in a unanimous vote, the City Council rejected the development. The buildup to the hearing, the dramatic and unpredictable hearing itself, and the later adoption by the city of a stronger watershed ordinance (the SOS Ordinance) reflected the coalescence of local environmental groups and citizens into a movement known as Save Our Springs (SOS). The SOS Movement is now seen as a high point of activism in Austin’s history, a story that inspires both myth–it’s a classic David-and-Goliath story–and controversy. 

To understand the importance of this moment, it’s critical to understand the place Barton Springs holds within Austin’s history. Barton Springs lies within Zilker Metropolitan Park, a 350-acre recreation hub that anchors the confluence of Lady Bird Lake and Barton Creek, two of the many creeks and waterways that add to the remarkable beauty of Central Texas. Just minutes from downtown Austin, Barton Springs traces its history from its role as a source of sustenance to Indigenous peoples, to its value as a site of commerce in the mid-1800s into the early 1900s, and to its final role as a recreation mecca. Like many recreation sites in the mid-1900s, Barton Springs was segregated until 1961, when activists and everyday people conducted “swim-ins” that led to its integration. Today, Barton Springs reflects both Austin’s diversity and its evolving identity as a countercultural bastion, a place where people of all backgrounds and ages can relax and enjoy its cooling waters throughout the year. 

Zilker park entrance

Zilker Park Entrance Portal, Austin. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Inspired by the SOS story, since 2019, I have been conducting oral history interviews with its participants, focusing on the period up to and including the 1990 hearing, the 1992 SOS Ordinance, and the years immediately afterwards. To date, I have completed audio interviews with forty people, recording the voices of everyone from environmentalists and their opponents to journalists and entertainers. My interest in Barton Springs began when I moved to Austin from Houston in 1986. A longtime recreational swimmer, I was used to chlorinated, lane-lined pools, and the cool, emerald waters of this legendary natural resource were a revelation.

The project began when I was earning my master’s in public history at Texas State University and took a fieldwork-focused oral history class in the fall of 2018. Two things happened: I discovered that I enjoyed interviewing, and I ran into a friend and key player in SOS, Brigid Shea, at a holiday party. I began talking with her about SOS and how I’d followed it when I was a young professional, and I asked whether anyone had ever captured the voices of the participants. She responded with her trademark enthusiasm, saying, “You should do it!” 

This memory is important because it tells other stories about doing public history. Shea and I became friends through volunteering with the PTA at the high school our children attended. Tropes about PTA moms abound, but in this case, my relationship with Shea was key to my public history work because she was able to put me in touch with numerous SOS participants. As an oral history instructor at Texas State, I tell this story to my students to emphasize the importance of relationships in fostering historical inquiry. 

A second aspect of this story is also important. I didn’t know then that Karen Kocher, a documentarian and now-retired instructor in the Radio-Television-Film department at the University of Texas at Austin, had been doing important work for some time on this same topic through her online Living Springs series. Her work includes interviews with several of the same people I was interviewing, which I didn’t discover until I was a year into my project. A central question for me became how I could differentiate my work from hers in ways that would contribute to the scholarship on Barton Springs. Eventually, Karen and I met to discuss our projects, and we have since forged a professional relationship in which we’ve shared interview material and supported each other’s work. I’ve come to see that my work differs from hers through our intended audiences, our interview style, and the points at which our lists of interviewees do differ.

I conducted my first interview in August 2019 with activist Shudde Fath, who was 103 at the time. In the course of the interview, several names arose that coincided with names I’d encountered in my research, and I began developing an interview list and working my way through it as I was earning my master’s. Although I didn’t earn class credit for my research, my affiliation with Texas State was key in their agreeing to archive my interview material and allowing me to use their interview consent form, both of which gave my project the imprimatur I needed to establish trust with my interviewees.

Aerial view of Barton Springs

Aerial image of Barton Springs. Source: Wikimedia Commons

I examined the SOS Movement’s complexities through my master’s thesis, in which I focused on six interviews to discuss how SOS affected communities in Austin in varying ways. One of the most interesting discoveries involved the different ways that my interviewees defined “the environment.” Susana Almanza, who is Mexican American, stressed the importance of people, not just natural spaces and wildlife, within the environment.[1] Jeff Travillion, who is African American, touched on the role of the sustainable food community within discussions about the environment, further expanding the parameters of environmentalism.[2]

A controversial topic that my interviews uncovered was whether the SOS Ordinance spurred gentrification in East Austin, which historically has been home to Austin’s Mexican American and African American communities. The reasoning is that, because the ordinance restricted development over the watershed southwest of Austin, it has contributed to the supercharged development that has taken place in East Austin post-SOS. East Austin activist Daniel Llanes discussed this topic at length, the answer to which has yet to be fully resolved.[3]

My interviewees shared their strategies and motivations for supporting SOS. Shea spoke for many in her description of the all-night hearing as an inspiring “popular uprising.”[4] Llanes described connecting members of the activist group PODER (People Organized in Defense of Earth and Her Resources) with SOS leadership such that PODER supported SOS in exchange for assistance lobbying to rid East Austin of hazardous “tank farms” where several major oil companies stored fuel.[5] Shea’s husband, John Umphress, recalled the simple act of circulating pickle jars at live music venues to raise money for the cause.[6]

Kid jumping into the water at Barton Springs

Kids enjoying Barton Springs. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Building upon my findings, I have showcased my research at conferences put on by the American Society for Environmental History and the Texas Oral History Association, and I plan to continue writing about it, incorporating the voices of all of my interviewees to flesh out the SOS story fully. The project is not yet live on the Internet, but at some point, I’d like to create a website to provide public access to the interviews. In the meantime, scholars wishing to access the materials can contact Texas State University Archives or me.

A typical workday on my SOS project involves going through my project planning documents and following up on interviews. I prioritize interviewees based on role in SOS, age, recommendations from others, or the simple fact that I’ve finally stumbled across their contact information after years of having them in my sights. Then I do outreach and finalize the interview, with a typical interview lasting about an hour and a half. The most labor-intensive part of my work is transcription, both the initial pass and the process of having my interviewees review their transcriptions. 

Doing this work outside of an academic setting has posed several challenges and opportunities. The first challenge is that I do all of the work on my own time; given the substantial commitment required to conduct and transcribe the interviews, the pace can be slow, evidenced by the fact that I don’t have a dedicated website for the material. This bothers me because I feel an obligation to my interviewees to make their interviews widely accessible. In addition, I bear all the costs of my research, including the software subscription, transcription services I used for my early interviews, my audio recorder, and logistical expenses such as gas and parking. These factors place the option of doing audio-visual interviews that much more out of reach. That said, I have complete independence in choosing my interviewees, managing my schedule, and drafting interview questions, and this freedom has contributed to my confidence and creativity as an oral historian.

Kids holding sign that reads: It's our future! Save the world!

Environmental protest. Source: Wikimedia Commons

The pandemic also posed unique challenges and opportunities. I discovered that people had newfound flexibility in their schedules, and I was able to schedule interviews that had eluded me prior to the pandemic. I learned that online interviews can yield meaningful material despite the fact that they lack some of the personal rapport of in-person interviews. Platforms like Zoom also create recordings of meetings, so I had natural backup files to the recordings on my audio recorder, which I operated next to my laptop during interviews. Unfortunately, I didn’t appreciate the fact that my laptop speakers were blown during several online interviews, and those recordings, while yielding decent transcripts, suffer from poor audio quality. In addition, I had to learn to manage my dogs, ensuring that they were fed prior to interviews so that they wouldn’t interrupt me. I also held several interviews outdoors to allow for good airflow. One of these took place at a Starbucks along I-35; the sounds of interstate traffic, the umbrella over our table flapping in the wind, and a monster truck that parked next to us with an idling engine while the driver picked up his order are audible on the recording. 

The surprising insights that my narrators have shared with me more than compensate for these challenges, such as the revelation that environmentalists and the development community held “peace talks” in the post-SOS heyday in which they hired a shaman to mediate.[7] It has also been fascinating to capture the point of view of members of the development community, whose portrayal of developer Jim Bob Moffett reflects a more complex take on his personality than what I obtained in interviews with environmentalists.[8]

My project on SOS has been fulfilling in more ways than I ever imagined when I embarked upon it. My experience conducting this project contributed to my being tapped to teach oral history at Texas State, a role I’ve thoroughly enjoyed. I get to share my successes and mistakes with my students, so they gain confidence in their ability to do oral history. I’ve also become a better historian. By interviewing a range of people both inside and outside of the activist circles that drove the SOS campaign’s historic victories, I’ve come to appreciate both the value of Austin’s identity as a “green, keep-it-weird” city and the need to interrogate that identity in new ways. Finally, I’ve made countless friends, including interviewees, fellow scholars, and the professional transcriber who assisted with my early interviews. Little did I imagine during that first dip in Barton Springs in 1986 that one day I’d have the opportunity to explore its history in this way. What a gift it has been.


Mary Closmann Kahle holds a degree in history from Stanford University and an M.B.A. from the University of Texas at Austin. She earned a master’s in public history from Texas State University, where she focused on oral history and historic preservation and completed an internship with Preservation Austin. She is a history steward with the Texas Historical Association, and served on the board of Preservation Austin and as the chair of the Austin History Center Association’s oral history committee (2022-2024). 


[1] Susana Almanza, interview by author, Austin, TX, October 16, 2020, (Zoom).

[2] Jeff Travillion, interview by author, August 19, 2020, Austin, TX, (Zoom).

[3]  Daniel Llanes, interview by author, Austin, TX, October 12, 2022.

[4] Brigid Shea, interview by author, Austin, TX, August 23, 2019. 

[5] Llanes, interview by author. 

[6] John Umphress, interview by author, Austin, TX, August 23, 2019. 

[7] George Cofer, interview by author, Austin, TX, October 2, 2020, (Zoom)

[8] Beau Armstrong, interview by author, Austin, TX, December 10, 2019. 


The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

Filed Under: 2000s, Environment, Features, History Beyond Academia, Texas Tagged With: Austin, environment, History beyond Academia, oral history, Texas

Review of Brown Skins, White Coats: Race Science in India, 1920-66 (2022)

Projit Bihari Mukharji’s Brown Skins, White Coats: Race Science in India, 1920-66 adds an innovative account of India’s twentieth century to the historiography of race science. As the head of the Department of History at Ashoka University in Haryana, India, Mukharji engages with subaltern studies and decolonial writings of South Asian history. The title echoes psychiatrist and philosopher Frantz Fanon’s Black Skin, White Masks (1952), and Mukharji applies Fanon’s analysis to the Indian subcontinent in discussing science’s role in racial alienation, the process by which colonial medicine and science practitioners divorced themselves from the social and political realities of the people they studied and treated. Brown Skins, White Coats examines the twentieth-century field of seroanthropology–the study of blood testing to explain social phenomena–and shows how these scientific practices, publications, and discussions shaped the racial politics of India’s nationalist movement. Mukharji argues that the history of Indian nationalism is inseparable from the development of race science in the subcontinent, and that historians of race science elsewhere must account for the Indian case. 

The book introduces a fascinating and effective method of storytelling beyond archival documents. Drawing from historian of slavery Saidiya Hartman’s method of Critical Fabulation, Mukharji constructs a fictional narrative based on the writings of twentieth-century Bengali novelist Hemendrakumar Ray. The narrative, consisting of eight letters exchanged between the novelist and another writer, includes the thoughts and conversations that non-scientists may have had about racial hierarchy in 1930s India. Through historical “overhearing” (p. 36), a linguistic practice that Mukharji identifies as distinctly Bengali, Brown Skins, White Coats combines classical Western historical methods with epistemologies local to the subject matter. The fabulations strengthen the book not only by articulating the presence of race science in social discourse, but also by demonstrating an analytical technique that reveals understandings of the archival material beyond purely literal interpretations. 

Brown Skins, White coats book cover

Mukharji begins in 1919 with the world’s first seroanthropology publication, which claimed to establish a link between blood types and ethnicity. Primarily relying on scientific publications and commentaries from scientific peers, he then demonstrates the ubiquity of racial classifications among biologists and anthropologists across the subcontinent. Concurrently, the “rapid Indianization of the scientific services in South Asia” (p. 50) separated academic science, including seroanthropology, from its previous association with Europeanness. Seroanthropologists in British India later incorporated the principles of blood-based racial hierarchy into local ethnic, religious, and caste systems. Race science and hierarchy models fit well into the nationalist independence movements of the mid-century which identified scientific infrastructure as essential to nation building. 

Mukharji next identifies multiple instances in which race science persisted after the Indian independence movement and discusses the concept of exogeneity, a framework that placed certain ethnic or religious populations as forever outsiders, in contrast to indigeneity. Many seroanthropological studies sought out culturally and genetically isolated communities as research subjects, including Jewish communities of South Asia. The studies of Jewish people fed into the nationalists’ assertion that Hindu people exclusively held the right to occupy and govern India, and Mukharji effectively shows how seroanthropologists contributed to the “emptying of the once-famed Jew Town of Cochin” (p.102). Mukharji then points to another example of racialized ideas of disease risk to the population of the subcontinent: sickle cell anemia. The historian notes that the social context of biochemistry in India in the 1950s differed significantly from the United States: “whereas the American molecularization of sickle cell disease had possessed a broad race-imploding aspect that disaggregated the presence of the gene from racial identities, in India molecularization seemed to reinforce racializing trends” (p.147). Molecularization–distilling the disease into differences in people’s molecular makeup–only exacerbated the racialization of sickle-cell disease in India. Skillfully tying in the racialization of caste and class in India, Mukharji shows how Indian scientists argued that certain populations posed a risk to the young nation based on the prevalence of genetic differences. 

Having explained the theoretical work of seroanthropology, Mukharji next turns to material. Seroanthropology relied on blood, and researchers often used their own blood as control samples, a process called “self-calibration” (p. 172). In using their own bodies as references, Mukharji argues, researchers placed themselves as the material “reserve” (p. 173) of scientific knowledge in India. Additionally, through interrogating the selection of research subjects, Mukharji reveals the wide variance of study design, then the author identifies swaths of blood samples that were lost due to inadequate refrigeration, which further affected results. The analysis of blood and research materials grounds the book’s discussion in the daily reality of seroanthropology and convincingly illustrates the influence of physical circumstances on the scientists’ universal claims. 

School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene Institute.

School of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene Institute, Calcutta. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Mukharji rounds out his exemplary work of subaltern history of science with an account of refusals. In congruence with recent calls to decolonize the history academy, Mukharji classifies refusal not as mere resistance to science, but rather as distinct actions that Indian communities performed based on their own understandings of blood. By casting refusals as different practices in parallel to seroanthropology, this analysis rebukes claims that resistance was anti-scientific and offers an excellent framework for scholars to explore varying degrees of engagement in the history of science. The book concludes with four texts from mid-century Indian scholars articulating views for the future of their country, each incorporating eugenics and other race science into their vision of India’s past and future. This final chapter and conclusion exemplify the prevalence of race science in India after WWII, but it is difficult to discern the degree to which the lectures and scientific publications influenced public thought about race and science. Mukharji concedes the possible disconnect between his scientific subjects and the greater Indian public in the conclusion, stating “Whether their seroanthropological stories actually translated into government policies or not is doubtful, but they certainly received the funds and the benediction of the state to tell their snapshotted biohistories” (p. 216). Nevertheless, the archival information Mukharji presents effectively proves that race science was widespread on the subcontinent and aligned with the nationalist project of twentieth-century India, from the colonial period through the first decades of independence. 

Brown Skins, White Coats is a triumph of decolonial history. Projit Bihari Mukharji shows how historians of science can draw on the epistemologies and techniques local to their historical subjects to bolster their argumentation. Any historian, especially one searching for an example of decolonial academic writing, would benefit greatly from reading this book, regardless of their interest in seroanthropology.  


Ben Schneider is an MD/PhD student currently completing a PhD in the Department of History at UCLA. He studies the history of public and private hospital expansion in twentieth-century Los Angeles and is interested in the relationships between health policy, urban policy, and health activism.


The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

Filed Under: 1900s, Asia, Reviews Tagged With: Anthropology, India

Las cosas tienen vida:  Un podcast sobre el rol de los objetos coloniales en nuestras vidas actuales 

Este artículo es parte de la serie: History beyond Academia

This article has an English version

La historia es, ante todo, un esfuerzo por comprender el pasado. Quienes la estudiamos buscamos reconstruir e interpretar lo que ocurrió, utilizando métodos que nos permitan hacerlo con cuidado y rigor. Para ello trabajamos con documentos del pasado (lo que los historiadores llamamos fuentes primarias) que pueden ser verdaderos, falsos o incluso contener un poco de ambos. A partir de estos materiales, y en diálogo con otros investigadores, vamos construyendo interpretaciones que nos ayudan a entender cada época desde su propio contexto. Muchas veces, creemos que se trata de un trabajo individual entre intelectuales, sin embargo, como señala el historiador británico Raphael Samuel, “la historia es una forma social de conocimiento, el trabajo […] de miles de manos distintas.”[1] Esto quiere decir que cualquier persona, desde una abuelita hasta el cartero, cotidianamente van contando y evaluando hechos históricos, que se van contando como tradición oral u escrita: ¡No es un monopolio de los historiadores!

Siempre concebimos el podcast como una oportunidad para ofrecer herramientas históricas a nuestro público. En cada episodio presentamos tanto los objetos —las cosas, en este caso— como a investigadores destacados, con el propósito de mostrar las diversas maneras de narrar y comprender un objeto histórico, especialmente del pasado colonial y sus implicancias en el presente, ya se encuentre en un museo, una iglesia o una colección privada. Este trabajo colaborativo nos ha permitido construir una visión del pasado colonial que buscamos compartir y enriquecer en diálogo con nuestra audiencia. 

En este artículo queremos reflexionar sobre el significado de esos objetos históricos y su revalorización por parte de los investigadores, trasladando su importancia del presente al pasado y viceversa, a través de un medio de comunicación público, como lo es un podcast.

Logo del podcast Las cosas tienen vida

Logo del Podcast “Las cosas tienen vida”

El podcast “Las cosas tienen vida” (Imagen 1) salió por primera vez en abril de 2021 como un proyecto de Historia Pública[2]. Su objetivo era despertar el interés de un público amplio de habla hispana en los nuevos métodos de investigación histórica, a partir del estudio de diversos objetos culturales. El proyecto comenzó a tomar forma varios meses antes, durante las pausas para el café que aliviaban nuestras largas jornadas de trabajo en el Archivo de Indias, en Sevilla. Entre los montículos de documentos coloniales, nuestras conversaciones se repetían una y otra vez, siempre volviendo al mismo punto: la frustrante falta de espacios donde poder compartir nuestras investigaciones con el público más allá del mundo académico. Cuestionamos si había una manera amena para divulgar los avances científicos de nuestros colegas a la medida de un público general. ¿Para quiénes son realmente estas historias en las que invertimos tanto esfuerzo y dedicación? ¿Podríamos construir comunidades que den valor a estos objetos históricos? ¿Cómo podemos abrir espacios donde los investigadores compartan sus trabajos con un público no especializado? No sabemos si fue el efecto de la pandemia o, más bien, el último arranque de energía de nuestra vida como doctorandos, pero de ahí nació la idea de crear algo nuevo. 

A primera vista, nuestro podcast podría parecer similar a otras propuestas que narran la historia del mundo o de un país a través de una serie de objetos[3]. Sin embargo, nuestro propósito es distinto: no buscamos ofrecer una mirada identitaria o cerrada sobre una comunidad y su tiempo, sino abrir nuevas formas de comprender la historia y sus objetos dentro de un espacio tan vasto y diverso como lo fue el mundo ibérico durante la temprana modernidad. 

Nosotros no contamos las historias: solo abrimos el micrófono. Quienes realmente las cuentan son nuestros entrevistados quienes son los que las investigan. En cada temporada invitamos a entre diez y doce especialistas cuyos trabajos abarcan distintas regiones del mundo ibérico colonial, mostrando así la riqueza de miradas y métodos posibles para estudiar el pasado. Cada invitado-investigador elige un artefacto y, a partir de él, nos guía por su propio recorrido histórico. Hasta ahora, el podcast reúne más de cien episodios distribuidos en nueve temporadas, con la participación de investigadores de diecisiete países y de disciplinas tan diversas como la arqueología, la ingeniería, la historia y la historia del arte. 

Nuestro “gabinete radiofónico” de objetos no sigue un criterio de selección rígido; más bien se mueve con libertad en un desorden creativo que nos encanta. Desde el inicio, quisimos centrar la atención en las decisiones de cada investigador, convencidos de que hacer historia es también un acto político. Eso implica aceptar que no podemos controlar la narrativa de los objetos ni pretender ofrecer una verdad única. En cambio, compartimos nuestras propias inquietudes y experiencias a través de ellos.

Dentro de ese aparente caos siempre buscamos un hilo común: la relación entre las personas y sus objetos, en el pasado y en el presente. Esa conexión despierta la pasión de los historiadores e investigadores, algo que se siente en cada conversación. Por eso, en los episodios más recientes, empezamos a preguntar a nuestros entrevistados directamente por la elección del objeto, el interés que lo inspira y, muchas veces, por el momento en que se produjo el primer encuentro con él.

En ese sentido, al incorporar objetos del mundo iberoamericano, e incluso del ámbito ibero-asiático, hemos podido cruzar barreras nacionales y fronteras físicas, incluso intelectuales. Esos entrecruzamientos han sido especialmente fructíferos, como el caso de la historiadora argentina Lucila Iglesias hablando de sobre un objeto del área chilena, el “Cristo de Mayo”; la chilena Laura Fahrenkrog, sobre unos instrumentos musicales en el Paraguay colonial; o la española, Marina Torres,  sobre un gorro sacerdotal católico proveniente del Museo Provincial de Guangdong en China[4]. Aquí las coordenadas se desdibujan y dan lugar a nuevas combinaciones que nos entusiasman. Rompemos, así, con el paradigma nacional que todavía nos condiciona, es decir, esa idea de que un historiador chileno debe estudiar la historia de Chile o una californiana, la de California.

En los últimos cinco años hemos aprendido de todo: desde cómo hacer una buena entrevista hasta cómo sobrevivir a la edición final. Dada la diversidad de nuestros invitados[RT1] , dependemos de tecnologías como Zoom para grabar los episodios (Imagen 2). Luego, editamos cuidadosamente cada uno para que tanto el investigador como el objeto tengan la mejor presencia posible, utilizando herramientas como Audacity. Después, gestionamos las redes y plataformas digitales para difundir los episodios entre un público amplio. Cada temporada ajustamos ligeramente el formato de las entrevistas, incorporando los comentarios y sugerencias de nuestros oyentes.

Por ejemplo, al principio producíamos episodios más largos, de entre 45 minutos y una hora. Sin embargo, muchos oyentes nos comentaron que resultaban demasiado extensos para los contextos en que escuchaban el podcast. Algunas de nuestras oyentes nos han contado, entre risas, que escuchan el podcast mientras practican yoga. Desde entonces, procuramos mantenerlos entre 25 y 30 minutos. No sería exagerado decir que detrás de cada episodio de 25 minutos hay más de diez horas de trabajo. Aun así, seguimos dedicándonos a esta labor no remunerada como un acto de amor y también como un gesto político hacia las historias y las investigaciones que compartimos.

José y Kate frente al micrófono

Imagen dos: José y Kate en grabaciones

A lo largo de nuestras nueve temporadas hemos creado un gabinete virtual lleno de objetos fascinantes: desde un cojín extraviado que reapareció en medio de una disputa política durante la ceremonia del alférez mayor en Quito, en 1573,[5] hasta obras pictóricas más clásicas, como la pintura de la Magdalena en éxtasis hecha por un artista cuzqueño y que hoy en día forma parte de la Colección Thoma (EEUU).[6]  Optar por titular cada episodio como ‘Un’ —ya sea una botija o una obra de Velázquez, episodio próximamente a estrenarse en nuestra nueva temporada— refleja una postura desafiante frente a la idea dominante de canon historiográfico. No somos un podcast de obras canónicas. En cambio, damos voz a los objetos sin imponerles un marco estilístico o historiográfico previo. Al examinar distintos tipos de cosas, buscamos mostrar la importancia de estudiarlas de forma integrada, como respuestas individuales a dinámicas locales y globales que caracterizaron la mundialización ibérica[7].

No creemos que baste con mostrar una variedad de objetos. En nuestro podcast buscamos profundizar en cada uno a través de un análisis que va más allá de su simple descripción. Exploramos su valor histórico, su propósito, la realidad que representan y el contexto en que surgieron. Nos preguntamos qué mensajes transmiten, cuál fue su papel en su tiempo y qué significan hoy. Además, reflexionamos sobre las formas actuales de acceso a estos objetos y complementamos cada episodio con libros o artículos sobre el tema, idealmente escrito por los propios invitados.

Sin embargo, hacer la historia accesible no garantiza que la gente la escuche. Desde el lanzamiento del primer episodio hemos alcanzado más de 10.600 descargas, lo que significa que cada uno de esos episodios fue guardado por un usuario en su dispositivo.[8] El número de escuchas son super variables… depende del tipo de objeto y el lugar de proveniencia. Por ejemplo, la espada de Bolívar [RT2] tiene muchas más escuchas en Colombia que en otros espacios[9]. Las comunidades locales suelen mostrarse especialmente receptivas a nuestros episodios y, muchas veces, también al compromiso de los propios investigadores. Así ocurre, por ejemplo, con el episodio dedicado a “un fragmento de arcilla blanca” en Cajamarca, presentado por Solsire Cusicanqui[10]. 

Gracias a la beca RSA Grant for Public Engagement Project in Renaissance Studies, entregada por la institución norteamericana Renassaince Society of America, en el último año hemos podido expandir nuestro proyecto a otras plataformas. Hemos creado una página web: www.lascosastienenvida.com, pensada para complementar el podcast. (Imagen 3)

Las cosas tienen vida página web

Página web de Las cosas tienen vida.

Comenzamos con los episodios más recientes, ya que necesitamos permisos de autor e imagen para publicar los anteriores. Como mencionamos, contamos con una amplia colección de grabaciones. La página web ofrece tres formas distintas de visualizar los objetos, permitiendo a los oyentes establecer conexiones temporales, geográficas y visuales entre ellos. Al hacer clic en cualquier imagen, se accede a la página individual del objeto. Por ejemplo, en la dedicada a la escalera incaica, primer objeto de la octava temporada, se observa el formato general de todas las páginas (Imagen 4). Cada una incluye la imagen del objeto, el episodio del podcast, su transcripción en español e inglés, y una breve biografía con fotografía del investigador.

Modelo de una página web con una escalera incaica argentina

Modelo de una página con un objeto y su entrevista.

Además, la nueva página web constituye un valioso recurso educativo, tanto para la enseñanza secundaria como universitaria. Ofrece a estudiantes y docentes la oportunidad de explorar nuevos objetos, formular preguntas críticas y, por qué no, abrir caminos hacia futuras investigaciones. La plataforma fomenta un aprendizaje activo, invitando a historiadores, estudiantes y público general a explorar el pasado con curiosidad y rigor. Más que una herramienta digital, es un espacio interactivo donde los objetos cobran vida y se vuelven accesibles para una audiencia amplia. Su objetivo es servir como puente entre la historia y la comunidad, promoviendo el diálogo y la participación en torno al pasado compartido.

A modo de cierre, quisiéramos retomar una pregunta que el historiador Marc Bloch inmortalizó hace más de setenta años: “Papá, explícame, ¿para qué sirve la historia?”[11]. Nuestra respuesta, hoy, ha sido crear un podcast. En Las cosas tienen vida mostramos que la historia no solo ilumina el pasado, sino que conecta culturas, geografías y experiencias humanas a través de los objetos que nos rodean. A lo largo de nueve temporadas, hemos explorado esa relación entre objetos e historia junto a investigadores de distintos países y disciplinas, revelando múltiples formas de comprender el mundo. Con la nueva página web damos un paso más en esa dirección: un espacio que enlaza los objetos en el tiempo y el espacio y funciona como herramienta educativa y de difusión del conocimiento histórico. Queremos que la historia siga dialogando con la comunidad, inspirando a cada oyente, estudiante e investigador a encontrar en los objetos del pasado su propia respuesta a esa eterna pregunta: ¿para qué sirve la historia?


Kate (Katherine) Mills es investigadora posdoctoral en el Kunsthistorisches Institut de Florencia. Obtuvo su doctorado (Ph.D.) en Historia del Arte por la Universidad de Harvard y una maestría (M.A.) en Historia de la Monarquía Hispánica por la Universidad Autónoma de Madrid. Su investigación actual examina la relación entre los desastres naturales en los Andes y los artistas que contribuyeron a la reconstrucción de las ciudades afectadas.

José Araneda Riquelme es investigador posdoctoral en el proyecto MISGLOB, “Misiones católicas y la circulación global de personas y bienes en la época moderna temprana (1500–1800)”, en la Universidad Roma Tre. Obtuvo su doctorado (Ph.D.) en Historia Moderna por la Scuola Normale Superiore di Pisa y una maestría (M.A.) en Historia por la Universidad Católica de Chile. Su investigación explora la relación entre la comunicación y la construcción del Imperio español durante el siglo XVII.


The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.


[1] Raphael Samuel, Theatres of Memory: Past and Present in Contemporary Culture (London: Verso, 1994), 15.

[2] “Historia pública” es la práctica de hacer historia con y para el público. Busca compartir la investigación histórica más allá del ámbito académico, promoviendo la participación ciudadana en la interpretación y uso del pasado. Thomas Cauvin, Public History a Textbook of Practice, 2nd Edition, (London: Routledge, 2022), p. 4

[3] MacGregor, Neil. A History of the World in 100 Objects. New York: Penguin Books, 2013 y Lucena Giraldo, Manuel. 82 objetos que cuentan un país: Una historia de España. Madrid: Taurus, 2015.

[4] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un gorro sacerdotal (China, s. XVIII). Con Marina Torres. Ep. 3×05 (12/04/2022)», Con Marina Torres. Ep. 3×05 (12/04/2022), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.; José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un documento de unos músicos indígenas (Paraguay, s. XVIII)», Con Laura Fahrenkrog. Ep. 2×02 (31/08/2021), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.; Araneda Riquelme y Mills, «Un gorro sacerdotal (China, s. XVIII). Con Marina Torres. Ep. 3×05 (12/04/2022)».

[5] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un Cojín (Ecuador, 1573)», Con Laura Paz Escala. Ep. 5×05 (16/05/2023), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[6] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Una Magdalena en éxtasis (Perú, s. XVIII)», Con Rosario Granados. Ep. 4×01 (13/09/2022), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f; José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un Velázquez (España, 1632)», Con Cécile Vincent-Cassy. Ep. 9×07 (13/01/2026), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[7] Serge Gruzinski, Las cuatro partes del mundo: historia de una mundialización (México: Fondo de Cultura Económica, 2010).

[8] Datos derivados de las estadísticas privadas que nos entrega nuestra plataforma de podcast “Buzzsprout”.

[9] Por ejemplo, el episodio “Una espada de Simón Bolívar” (temporada 4, episodio 9) analiza la espada del líder revolucionario Simón Bolívar. El veinte por ciento del total de descargas de este episodio proviene de Colombia, en particular de la región de Bogotá, donde actualmente se encuentra la espada.

José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Una espada de Simón Bolívar (Colombia, s. XIX)», Con Juliana Ramírez Herrera. Ep. 4×09 (08/10/2022), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[10] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un fragmento de cerámica blanca (Perú)», Con Solsire Cusicanqui. Ep. 3×10 (17/05/2022)., Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[11] Marc Bloch, Apología para la historia o el oficio de historiador [1949] (México: Fondo de Cultura Económica, 2001).


 [RT1]diversidad geográfica, en este caso? o de otro tipo también?

 [RT2]del líder independentista de Sudamérica o algo así, para los que no sepan de él

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Las cosas tienen vida: A Podcast About the Role of Colonial Objects in Our Present Lives 

This article is part of the series: History Beyond Academia

Este artículo tiene una versión en español.

History is, above all, an effort to understand the past. Those of us who study it seek to reconstruct and interpret what happened, using methods that allow us to do so with care and rigor. We work with documents from the past—what historians call primary sources—which may be genuine, falsified, or somewhere in between. From these materials, and in dialogue with other researchers, we build interpretations that help us understand each era within its own context.

Often, we think of history as an individual pursuit among intellectuals. However, as the British historian Raphael Samuel noted, history is “a social form of knowledge, the work […] of a thousand different hands.”[1] This means that anyone—from a grandmother to a mail carrier—tells and evaluates historical events in their everyday lives, passing them down through oral or written traditions. History is not the monopoly of historians!

From the start, we conceived of the podcast as an opportunity to offer historical tools to a wider audience. In each episode, we present both objects—“things,” in this case—and distinguished researchers, with the goal of showing the many ways one can narrate and interpret a historical object, especially those from the colonial past and their implications in the present, whether the object is found in a museum, a church, or a private collection. This collaborative work has allowed us to build a shared vision of the colonial past—one we hope to enrich through dialogue with our listeners.

In this article, we reflect on the meaning of these historical objects and the ways researchers have revalued them—transferring their significance from the present to the past and vice versa—through a public medium such as a podcast.

Podcast Logo: Las cosas tienen historia

Podcast logo: Las cosas tienen vida. 

The podcast Las cosas tienen vida (“Things Have a Life of Their Own”) first aired in April 2021 as a Public History project.[2] Its goal was to awaken interest among a broad Spanish-speaking audience in new methods of historical research through the study of cultural objects.

The idea took shape months earlier, during the coffee breaks that punctuated our long workdays at the Archivo de Indias in Seville. Among the piles of colonial documents, our conversations kept circling back to the same frustration: alack of spaces where we could share our research beyond academia. We wondered whether there was an engaging way to communicate our colleagues’ scientific advances to a general audience.

Who are these stories really for—the ones we devote so much effort and passion to? Could we build communities that value historical objects? How can we create spaces for researchers to share their work with non-specialists? Perhaps it was the effect of the pandemic—or simply a final burst of energy in our doctoral lives—but that’s how the idea to create something new was born.

At first glance, our podcast might resemble other projects that tell the history of the world or a nation through a series of objects.[3] But our purpose is different: we don’t aim to offer an identity-based or closed interpretation of a community and its time. Instead, we want to open up new ways of understanding history and its objects across the vast and diverse space that was the Iberian world in the early modern period.

We don’t tell the stories—we simply open the microphone. The storytellers are our guests, the researchers themselves. Each season, we invite ten to twelve specialists whose work covers different regions of the Iberian colonial world, showcasing the richness of perspectives and methods used to study the past. Each guest chooses an artifact and, from there, guides us through their own historical journey.

So far, the podcast includes more than one hundred episodes across nine seasons, featuring researchers from seventeen countries and disciplines as diverse as archaeology, engineering, history, and art history.

Our “radio cabinet of curiosities” follows no rigid selection criteria; instead, it moves freely within a creative kind of disorder that we love. From the beginning, we wanted to center each researcher’s choices, convinced that doing history is also a political act. This means accepting that we cannot control an object’s narrative or claim a single truth. Rather, we share our own questions and experiences through them.

Within that apparent chaos, we always seek a common thread: the relationship between people and their objects, both past and present. That connection is what ignites historians’ passion—a feeling that comes through in every conversation. In recent episodes, we have begun even asking our guests directly about why they chose their object, what drew their interest, and when they first encountered it.

By incorporating objects from the Ibero-American and even Ibero-Asian worlds, we’ve been able to cross national, physical, and intellectual borders. These crossings have been especially fruitful: for instance, Argentine historian Lucila Iglesias discusses a Chilean object—the Cristo de Mayo; Chilean researcher Laura Fahrenkrog colonial Paraguayan musical instruments; or Spanish scholar Marina Torres a Catholic priest’s cap from the Guangdong Provincial Museum in China.[4] In such cases, boundaries blur and give rise to new, exciting combinations. We thus break away from the national paradigm that still conditions us—the idea that a Chilean historian must study Chile’s history, or a Californian, California’s.

Over the past five years, we’ve learned almost everything—from how to conduct a good interview to how to survive final editing. Given the geographical diversity of our guests, we rely on technologies like Zoom to record episodes. Then, we carefully edit each one so that both the researcher and the object are presented in the best possible way, using tools like Audacity. Afterward, we manage social media and digital platforms to reach a wide audience. Each season, we tweak the format based on listener feedback and suggestions.

For example, at first we produced longer episodes—45 minutes to an hour—but listeners told us that was too long for their typical listening habits. Some even told us, laughing, that they listen to the podcast while doing yoga! Since then, we’ve aimed to keep episodes between 25 and 30 minutes. It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that behind each 25-minute episode there are over ten hours of work. Still, we continue this unpaid labor as an act of love—and as a political gesture toward the stories and research we share.

José and Kate in front of a microphone

José y Kate during a recording session.

Throughout our nine seasons, we’ve built a virtual cabinet full of fascinating objects: from a lost cushion that resurfaced in the midst of a political dispute during the alférez mayor ceremony in Quito in 1573,[5] to more traditional artworks like a Cuzqueñan School painting of the Magdalene in Ecstasy, now part of the Thoma Collection in the U.S.[6]

Our decision to title each episode as ”un (a)”—for example, A jar or A painting by Velázquez (an upcoming episode in our new season)—is a deliberate stance against the dominance of canonical historiography. We’re not a podcast about canonical works. Instead, we give voice to objects without imposing a stylistic or historiographical framework upon them. By examining different kinds of things, we aim to show the importance of studying them holistically—as individual responses to the local and global dynamics that characterized Iberian globalization.[7]

But it’s not enough to show a variety of objects. In our podcast, we strive to delve deeply into each one, going beyond mere description. We explore its historical value, its purpose, the reality it represents, and the context in which it emerged. We ask what messages it conveys, what role it played in its time, and what it means today. We also reflect on how these objects are accessed today and complement each episode with books or articles on the topic—ideally written by the guest researcher themselves.

Of course, making history accessible doesn’t guarantee people will listen. Since the first episode, we’ve reached over 10,600 downloads, meaning that each episode was saved by a user on their device.[8]  Listen counts vary widely depending on the object and its origin. For instance, the episode on South American Revolutionary leader Simon Bolívar’s sword has many more listens in Colombia than elsewhere.[9] Local communities are often especially receptive, both to the episodes and to the researchers’ own engagement—like in the episode about “a fragment of white clay” in Cajamarca, presented by Solsire Cusicanqui.[10]

Thanks to the RSA Grant for Public Engagement Project in Renaissance Studies, awarded by the Renaissance Society of America, we’ve recently expanded the project to other platforms by creating a website: www.lascosastienenvida.com.

Las cosas tienen vida web page

Las cosas tienen vida web page.

We began by uploading the most recent episodes, as older ones require image and copyright permissions. Our large archive of recordings will be gradually added. The website offers three different ways to visualize the objects, allowing listeners to make temporal, geographic, and visual connections among them. Clicking on any image opens an individual object page. For example, the page for the Inca staircase—the first object in season eight—shows the general layout: each page includes an image of the object, the podcast episode, its transcript in Spanish and English, and a brief biography and photo of the researcher.

Las cosas tienen vida Web page template

Template with an object and its interview.

            The new website also serves as a valuable educational resource, both for secondary and university teaching. It offers students and teachers the opportunity to explore new objects, ask critical questions, and even develop future research projects. The platform encourages active learning, inviting historians, students, and the general public to explore the past with curiosity and rigor. More than a digital tool, it’s an interactive space where objects come to life and become accessible to a wide audience. Its goal is to serve as a bridge between history and community, promoting dialogue and participation around our shared past.

As a closing thought, we’d like to return to a question historian Marc Bloch immortalized more than seventy years ago: “Tell me, father, what’s the use of history?”.[11] Our answer today has been to create a podcast. In Las cosas tienen vida, we show that history not only illuminates the past but also connects cultures, geographies, and human experiences through the objects that surround us. Across nine seasons, we’ve explored that relationship between objects and history with researchers from different countries and disciplines, revealing multiple ways of understanding the world.

With our new website, we take that mission one step further—creating a space that links objects across time and space and serves as both an educational tool and a platform for sharing historical knowledge. We want history to keep engaging with communities, inspiring every listener, student, and researcher to find, in the objects of the past, their own answer to that eternal question: What is history for?


Kate (Katherine) Mills is a postdoctoral fellow at the Kunsthistorisches Institut in Florence. She holds a Ph.D. in Art History from Harvard University and an M.A. in the History of the Spanish Monarchy from the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid. Her current research examines the relationship between Andean natural disasters and the artists who contributed to the reconstruction of affected cities.

José Araneda Riquelme is a postdoctoral fellow in the MISGLOB Project, “Catholic missions and the global circulation of people and goods in the early modern period (1500–1800)”, at Roma Tre University. He holds a Ph.D. in Early Modern History from the Scuola Normale Superiore di Pisa and an M.A. in History from the Universidad Católica de Chile. His research explores the relationship between communication and the construction of the Spanish Empire during the seventeenth century.


The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.


[1] Raphael Samuel, Theatres of Memory: Past and Present in Contemporary Culture (London: Verso, 1994), 15.

[2] “Public history” is the practice of doing history with and for the public. It seeks to share historical research beyond the academic sphere, promoting civic participation in the interpretation and use of the past.
Thomas Cauvin, Public History: A Textbook of Practice, 2nd Edition (London: Routledge, 2022), p. 4.

[3] MacGregor, Neil. A History of the World in 100 Objects. New York: Penguin Books, 2013 y Lucena Giraldo, Manuel. 82 objetos que cuentan un país: Una historia de España. Madrid: Taurus, 2015.

[4] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un gorro sacerdotal (China, s. XVIII). Con Marina Torres. Ep. 3×05 (12/04/2022)», Con Marina Torres. Ep. 3×05 (12/04/2022), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.; José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un documento de unos músicos indígenas (Paraguay, s. XVIII)», Con Laura Fahrenkrog. Ep. 2×02 (31/08/2021), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.; Araneda Riquelme y Mills, «Un gorro sacerdotal (China, s. XVIII). Con Marina Torres. Ep. 3×05 (12/04/2022)».

[5] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un Cojín (Ecuador, 1573)», Con Laura Paz Escala. Ep. 5×05 (16/05/2023), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[6] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Una Magdalena en éxtasis (Perú, s. XVIII)», Con Rosario Granados. Ep. 4×01 (13/09/2022), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f; José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un Velázquez (España, 1632)», Con Cécile Vincent-Cassy. Ep. 9×07 (13/01/2026), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[7] Serge Gruzinski, Las cuatro partes del mundo: historia de una mundialización (México: Fondo de Cultura Económica, 2010).

[8] Datos derivados de las estadísticas privadas que nos entrega nuestra plataforma de podcast “Buzzsprout”.

[9] Por ejemplo, el episodio “Una espada de Simón Bolívar” (temporada 4, episodio 9) analiza la espada del líder revolucionario Simón Bolívar. El veinte por ciento del total de descargas de este episodio proviene de Colombia, en particular de la región de Bogotá, donde actualmente se encuentra la espada.

José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Una espada de Simón Bolívar (Colombia, s. XIX)», Con Juliana Ramírez Herrera. Ep. 4×09 (08/10/2022), Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[10] José Araneda Riquelme y Kate Mills, «Un fragmento de cerámica blanca (Perú)», Con Solsire Cusicanqui. Ep. 3×10 (17/05/2022)., Las cosas tienen vida, s. f.

[11] Marc Bloch, Apología para la historia o el oficio de historiador [1949] (México: Fondo de Cultura Económica, 2001).

Filed Under: Features, History Beyond Academia, Material Culture Tagged With: History beyond Academia, material culture, objects, podcast, Public History

Review of Disenfranchised: The Rise and Fall of Industrial Citizenship in China (2019).

Banner for review of Disenfranchised: the rise and fall of industrial citizenship in China

In Mao-era factories, workers were officially described as the “masters” of the workplace. With the support of the party-state, they participated in factory management through supervisory practices, while simultaneously embedding workers within Party-led systems of governance. In Disenfranchised: The Rise and Fall of Industrial Citizenship in China, Joel Andreas examines this tension, in which mechanisms of participation both motivated workers and constrained their actions. Andreas draws on interviews with 128 industrial enterprise employees to reconstruct the informal mechanisms of the workplace, showing that Mao-era patterns of factory governance were shaped through workers’ close identification with their workplaces and the binding of material interests to the workplace. Thereby extending Andrew Walder’s new traditionalist framework beyond treating shop-floor governance primarily as a cadre–worker dyad.

To make sense of this tension, Andreas adapts Guy Standing’s concept of “industrial citizenship,” which treats workers not merely as employees but as legitimate stakeholders entitled to material protection and governance participation. In Chapter 1, he builds on this idea by introducing two analytical dimensions–“workplace citizenship” and “autonomy in the workplace”–to examine how workers’ capacity for participation and claims-making within the factories shaped the practice of shop-floor democracy.

 The remaining chapters are organized in chronological order. Chapter 2 examines the early years of the People’s Republic, showing the complex process through which the state incorporated workers into newly emerging structures of factory governance through institutional arrangements such as trade unions and workers’ congresses, which supported the takeover and transformation of capitalist industry and commerce. After a relatively peaceful socialist transformation of industry and commerce, the state established lifelong employment for workers in state-owned enterprises. These new enterprises, danwei, or work units, formed the central ground of working-class experiences: employment was tied to welfare provision and mechanisms of political supervision, thereby encompassing all aspects of daily life beyond production. Thus, workers should be identified and considered primarily as “danwei persons” rather than “social persons.”

Book cover of Disenfranchised (2019)

The title of Chapter 3, “Participatory Paternalism,” offers a concise description of the form of workplace democracy. As the author highlights, although institutions of democratic management were installed by the state, in practice, workers’ representatives were seldom able to challenge factory leadership; they functioned mainly to discipline capitalists and incumbent managers and to contain worker dissatisfaction. This finding corroborates the scope of workplace democracy in China delineated in Andreas’s Chapter 1 framework: workers’ attachment to the workplace sustained participation, while limited autonomy constrained meaningful negotiation.

In Chapters 4–6, Andreas discusses how leaders headed by Mao realized the limitations of the SWC in factory democracy and thus launched a series of political campaigns to promote workers’ participation in politics, factory decision-making, and supervision. Chapter 4 traces a series of top-down political campaigns that sought to advance democratic practice by mobilizing workers to openly criticize bureaucratism. These movements granted workers a limited supervisory voice, a trend that culminated in the “Big Democracy” movement of 1966 during the Cultural Revolution. Chapter 5 emphasizes that the Cultural Revolution profoundly reshaped the work-unit system, as workers acquired greater room for initiative and collective action, and a wave of worker movements directly challenged long-established patterns of factory authority.

In the post-Mao era, the “economism” upheld by the reform and opening-up fundamentally undermined the foundation of industrial democracy that had been established over the previous thirty years. Chapters 7 and 8 emphasize that Mao-style mass mobilization failed to establish a reproducible democratic supervisory system. Although Deng Xiaoping’s reforms primarily affected the economic sphere, each component sustaining democratic practice was successively damaged or dismantled in the course of market-oriented reform. As work unit communities were gradually steered toward profit maximization, economic hegemony marginalized workers’ voices. Workers ultimately lost their participatory citizenship in the workplace, leading to the establishment of a pure market despotism.

The brilliance of Andreas’s research on the rise and fall of industrial citizenship lies in employing an analytical framework to highlight the fragility of participatory democracy. In the passive revolution of the party-state’s market transition, the reorientation of the party-state’s will reduced participatory institutions to rubber stamp. Given the work-unit system’s lack of autonomy, workers’ political participation was progressively stripped away through the combined effects of marketization and party-state intervention. Participatory democracy under industrial citizenship produced neither regression nor progress, but rather a state of stagnation. The “Big Democracy” of the Cultural Revolution witnessed a multitude of political experiments, albeit many of them quickly vanished, leaving countless regrets. When worker groups autonomously initiate organizational modes and reshape their political subjectivity can this stagnation possibly be broken.

Old photo of Qingdao's Worker's cultural palace

Qingdao Workers’ Cultural Palace, 1950s. Source: Wikimedia Commons

While the book’s broad scope—spanning from the Chinese socialist revolution to its integration into globalized development—is commendable, its vast temporal coverage results in a somewhat thin analysis of specific periods. Andreas’s analysis reflects a mechanistic perspective. Within his framework, Mao’s series of political experiments failed to curb bureaucracy because democratic power fundamentally relies on autonomy. Beyond citizenship, however, the other principle of politics is equality. In the profit-centered reform era, workers’ voices carried little weight when confronted with the economic and technical discourses of cadres, an imbalance that the Maoist educational revolution sought to eliminate and that points to an additional aim of those political experiments beyond Andreas’s focus. Consequently, his analysis does not fully examine how the intricate machinery of the production system continued to keep workers in a subordinate position.

Nevertheless, this milestone study is essential reading for any scholar of China. Its focus on the workplace as the central arena of socialist revolution offers a crucial lens for understanding PRC history and yields precious, cautionary, yet inspiring lessons for contemporary industrial democracy. Moreover, while Andreas extends Walder’s analysis, the book’s minor missteps remind us that if we obscure complexity and neglect to ask how democratic planning projects unraveled under internal tensions and external pressures, we forfeit the chance to turn emancipation’s potential into actuality.


Ziqiao Zheng graduated from the University of Sydney with a Bachelor of Arts in History. His postgraduate research in Environmental Science focused on climate–labour movements and democratic production in sustainable economies, leading to a deeper interest in the politics of production in 1960s China.

The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

Filed Under: 1900s, Asia, Reviews, Work/Labor Tagged With: China, citizenship, Democracy, Industrialization

Review of The Years of Theory: Postwar French Thought to the Present (2024).

Fredric Jameson has a new book—his last. Published posthumously in 2024, only a few months after his passing, it offers an idiosyncratic philosophical journey through his own deeply personal engagement with French theory. Just as he has done since 1985 as a Professor at Duke University, in this work Jameson takes the time to reflect on what “theory” is trying to do—how, why, by whom, when, and where. The point of the book, he tells us, is to identify the “name and phone numbers” (115) of the makers and shakers of theory, rather than to explain what theory itself is. This is not, in other words, an introduction to French theory. Readers seeking such orientation would be better served by primers such as French Philosophy: A Very Short Introduction. And even then, the search may prove unsatisfying, for French theory resists definition. This resistance, as we shall shortly see, is structural. “Theory,” as it came to be known, is a subject that deftly avoids its own subjectivity, stubbornly eluding definition and self-reflection. Modular, open-ended, and often obscure, it faces outward, lending itself to use and reinvention across disciplines—from comparative literature and cultural studies to architecture, anthropology, gender studies, psychology, and beyond. Each field, indeed each thinker, forges a distinctive variant of Theory. Historians, too, have ours—but more on that later, as this is, first and foremost, Jameson’s experience with theory.

Born in Ohio in the midst of the Great Depression, Jameson attended a liberal arts college in Pennsylvania, where he pursued French studies. He graduated in 1954, just in time to immerse himself in the existentialist carnival sweeping Paris and much of Europe. Existentialism became the subject of his doctoral dissertation at Yale, that of his first book, and, more importantly, a lifelong passion through which he thinks about the world. In addition to his immersion in French thought, Jameson—like many intellectuals of the 1960s—was profoundly influenced by the Frankfurt School, pioneers of a Marxist critique that analyzed capitalism through cultural rather than strictly socio-economic lenses. The German School’s central concern was understanding why revolutions, which Marxist theory predicted, did not occur. This focus led them to prioritize cultural analysis over materialist concerns, inspiring subsequent generations of so-called “cultural critics”—a public persona and political role they effectively helped to invent. Jameson, for his part, embraced this role.

Fusing these two traditions—French and German—Jameson approached the cultural record holistically, viewing it as a vast, expansive field encompassing every sphere of human activity: politics, philosophy, art, literature, music, cinema, architecture, and psychology. By engaging all these spheres, he wrote about “everything,” as the interdisciplinary forebears of the Frankfurt School had envisioned. Progressing steadily, by the 1980s he was widely recognized as the leading Marxist literary and cultural critic in the United States.  Observing what he called the slow de-Marxification of Europe, he shifted his focus to the phenomenon that had taken its place: postmodernism (or post-structuralism). Approaching it from the “outside,” he transformed postmodernism—despite its resistance—into a philosophical topic, in need of inquiry.

Book cover The Years of Theory (2024)

Approaching postmodernism critically, but without hostility and at times even sympathetically, he emerged as a preeminent critic of this new globalized form of culture, eventually publishing Postmodernism, or The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991). Thereafter, he followed postmodernism, engaging both its promise and exhaustion in our own neo-liberal times. To translate his stance to the world of art, one might contrast Edvard Munch’s turn-of-the-century modernist painting The Scream, which connotes existential anguish as a quintessential modern condition, and Andy Warhol’s 1970s silkscreens which blur the boundary between high and low culture, foreground reproduction, repetition and surface over depth, embrace irony and ambiguity, and de-center the artist as sole author. Jameson appears to have preferred the recognizable modern subject of Munch, an image hollow enough to project ourselves onto it.

The Scream by Munch

The Scream by Edvard Munch, ca. 1893.

But all of this is rather old news. In his latest book, a more relaxed Jameson circles back to the golden age of French theory—from its initiation with Sartre’s Being and Nothingness (1943), through the late-century experiments of postmodern thinkers such as Alain Badiou’s Being and Event (1988), and on to its American offshoots. For although postmodernism is French in origin, it is also an American tradition: from the late 1970s onward, the United States became the place where French theory found its most fervent reception and political applicability, perhaps even eclipsing its influence in its native country.

Indeed, it was in America that an amplified “theory” crystallized into a heavyweight academic category bearing the aura of exclusivity, elitism, and the promise of an esoteric path to hidden knowledge—what its practitioners often treat as “truth.” To partake in this secular theology—a characterization that critical thinkers vehemently reject—is to enter the worlds of its prophets and saints: Lévi-Strauss, Althusser, Barthes, Lacan, Derrida, Guattari, Deleuze, Kristeva, Foucault, Lyotard, Rancière, Baudrillard, and many others. You may never have read these iconic thinkers, yet if you have ever used terms like discourse, intervention, or narrative, you are already using their language. Also deploying the metaphor of theory as language, Jameson writes of how one “…learns Deleuzian, Derridean…” (96), and many other dialects with which to find truth in the world.

However, the theory-as-language metaphor has some obvious limitations, as, unlike language, the horizon of theory is always normative: concerned not simply with describing the world or explaining how things are, but more urgently with how they might or should be. That feature makes theory a highly political affair. Indeed, what binds the diverse strands of theory is the (Marxist) expectation that the writing and reading of theory will culminate in a revolt against the institutionalized order, or in its 1960s name, “the system.” Another way of understanding it is as a new addition, or an upgrade, to “counter-Enlightenment” thought; a tradition that is as old as the Enlightenment and whose icons are people like Friedrich Nietzsche and Martin Heidegger. With the anti-establishment message baked into its DNA, it is an irony that the only true revolution in which theory participates is that of transforming itself into what it came to destroy: a system. In Jameson’s wise words: “Theory was never supposed to turn into a system; it was supposed to destroy systems in some way and to exist as a kind of local enterprise.” (437-8).

Portrait of Nietzsche

Friedrich Nietzsche by photographer Gustav Schultze, 1882. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Delivered as an online seminar in 2021—the Zoom year of Covid—the twenty-four lectures that make up this book arrive in a composed conversational prose. This is a deliberate stylistic choice, emphasizing the power of narrative and standing in sharp contrast to the often impenetrable and self-referential language of theory. It is, in itself, a political choice. Thematically, Jameson traces a linear progression through philosophy: from existentialism, structuralism, and semiotics to post-structuralisms and the bifurcated intensities of postmodernism. All of this unfolds against the backdrop of shifting ideological, social, and institutional contexts—the liberation of Paris, the politics of the French Communist Party, the Algerian War, May ’68, the rise of Maoism, the long socialist presidency of François Mitterrand (1981-1995), and the triumphant ascendancy of American-made neoliberalism globally.

Jameson engages each philosophical turn and twist on his own terms—autobiographically—which is why The Years of Theory is not an introduction to French theory but a meditation on it. He begins with the philosophical fountainhead of German phenomenology, which displaced an older tradition preoccupied with epistemological questions such as “How can we know that we know?” and “What guarantees the certainty of a scientific proof?” In their place, phenomenologists like Husserl and Heidegger shifted attention to the question of how we experience the world—that is, to the problem of being. With this shift, philosophy moved away from concepts of “essence” and “substance” toward a relational perspective, one that understands “…things of the world and the people of the world” (42), in other words, existence itself, as an interactive process.

Concerning that major shift toward existentialism, Jameson—like many others—credits Jean-Paul Sartre with translating phenomenology into a philosophy of freedom. Central to this is Sartre’s foundational theorization of otherness, a concept that has since become a mainstream feature of contemporary culture, especially in television and media. If you find yourself wondering about the current language of otherness—for example, the “objectifying look” or the “gaze” (le regard), which reduces a woman to an object of another’s desire and need, or what is now framed as “microaggression”—Jameson points you back to Sartre.

Sartre also endures in our lives through his coinage of the term commitment (engagement), by which he pioneered a new political model of intellectual activism—demanding that intellectuals not merely describe the world, as in socially detached scholarship, but actively work to transform it. This, too, resonates strongly today. Jameson, who matured intellectually in the world that existentialism had ushered in, remained permanently marked by Sartre’s insistence that individuals accept responsibility for their own freedom (“Freedom has to be your own act,” Jameson explains, 41). Yet although an enthusiastic follower, Jameson is also keenly aware of Sartre’s philosophical shortcomings: his failure to translate the philosophy of freedom into a universal ethics applicable across the globe; his reckless conceptualization of anti-colonial violence as a form of freedom; and—most painfully for Jameson—his inability to reconcile existentialism with Marxism.

Picture of Jean-Paul Sartre

Jean-Paul Sartre, 1965. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Next, Jameson turns to structuralism, a movement that unfolded alongside existentialism but whose roots reach back to early twentieth-century studies of linguistic structures. “…in the structuralist period,” Jameson writes, “the major thought was that language produces us, that what we think of as our identity and our subjectivity is an effect of language” (251). From this perspective, anthropologists, historians, and literary critics built an entire conceptual universe of specialized jargon through which they sought to identify and analyze systems whose structures and rules were understood as binding, holistic, and universal, rather than culturally specific, decentralized, or random.

In their effort to map these structural grids, structuralists like anthropologist Claude Lévi-Strauss and literary critic Roland Barthes advanced ironclad assumptions: isolated subjects and words derive their meaning only through their function within a larger system, such as tribal patrimony, never on their own. In this view, a word signifies not in itself but by virtue of its difference from other words. Structuralist analysis thus emphasized how meaning is produced through a structure of binary oppositions such as modern vs. traditional, male vs. female, metropole vs. colony, or city vs. countryside. These oppositions were thought to underlie myths, texts, and cultural practices—and, most relevant here, the writing of history. In one of the many original moments in the book, Jameson reflects on how structuralists transformed problems into solutions, not by “solving” them, but by describing and exploring their structures and rules. This helps explain why, in those years, so many graduate seminars in history bore the title “Problems in Social History,” encouraging Ph.D. students to identify, articulate, and analyze the structure of the past.

As a system of interpretation that subordinated individual agency to overarching structures, structuralism had already reached its limits before the revolutionary moment of May ’68, when it became clear that individuals were lost within societies remarkably resilient to fundamental change. A piece of graffiti from the time mocking structural Marxist Louis Althusser—“Althu sert à rien” (“Althusser is worthless”)—captured the stasis that pushed a new generation to revisit an old question: Where does power come from, and how does it operate? This new focus on power signaled the arrival of post-structuralism—an imprecise umbrella term marking the postmodern liberation of theory from the constraints of organized, or rather structured, philosophy. In the 1970s, French thought staged a decisive break with the Cartesian model of the autonomous rational subject (“I think therefore I am”), which constituted the very basis of Enlightenment.

Where structuralism conceived of the world in terms of fixed systems and universal rules, post-structuralism emphasized instability, plurality, and the impossibility of establishing meaning in any absolute sense. Post-structuralist thinkers argued that structures were not fixed, timeless, and universal but contingent, unstable, and constantly shifting—therefore subject to ongoing interpretation and reinterpretation. Viewing meaning as never fully present and always deferred, Jacques Derrida coined the term différance to describe the process by which meaning emerges through an endless play of differences, never reaching a final ground or essence. This shift implied an abandonment of stable definitions or absolutes of any kind, inaugurating a form of relativism that resisted the very possibility of ontological grounding in the form of authoritative truth. As sociologist and philosopher Jean Baudrillard put it in his book Simulacra and Simulation (1981), signs in culture no longer refer to any reality at all. They only refer to other signs, as in Warhol’s work. This is the age of pure simulation, where the distinction between reality and representation collapses and with it the ability to tell truth from fiction. About that, Jameson is clear: “There is no truth, so all you getting is effects.” (140). 

Picture of Jean Baudrillard

Jean Baudrillard in 2005. Source: Wikimedia Commons

Post-structuralists in particular challenged the supposed truth of binary oppositions, exposing them as instruments of vertical power that establish hierarchies of privilege—for instance, the white heterosexual man over his “others,” or civilization over the colonized “savage.” If you are following today’s culture wars, the language of privilege should sound familiar: its origins lie in this critique of binary opposition as the normative and seemingly objective order of things, as suggested by the title of Michel Foucault’s 1966 book The Order of Things: An Archaeology of the Human Sciences. Yet Foucault pushed the argument further, insisting that knowledge itself is conditioned by power relations that define what counts as truth, normality, or rationality. In doing so, he marked all forms of modern disciplinary knowledge as potentially oppressive.

Foucault, Roland Barthes, and others also began to treat texts, cultural practices, and institutions as socially constructed, shaped not by inherent essence but by discourse and social practices. A now-familiar claim within this line of thought is that “sex is a construction”: biological differences are not simply natural givens but are produced and sustained through cultural practices, including the assignment of roles, behaviors, and expectations to different bodies (male, female, or otherwise). This, too, strongly resonates with our current moment.

Taking yet another step, this perspective led post-structuralists to suggest that everything can be read—and unread—as a constructed text: not only literature, but also social practices (such as Independence Day), institutions (such as the archive), norms (such as objectivity), and, by implication, entire histories. Enshrining the autonomy of such texts, Roland Barthes famously proclaimed the “death of the author,” arguing, as in Warhol’s silkscreens, that meaning is not determined by an author’s intention but remains open to multiple readings. When Fredric Jameson and his colleagues co-founded the journal Social Text in 1979, they embraced the idea that texts lack any final, fixed meaning and instead exist within intertextual networks, where meanings are continually shaped and reshaped through other texts and contexts. Despite advancing a theoretical defense of narrative and storytelling as forms of criticism in his 1981 book The Political Unconscious, Jameson subscribed to a postmodern sensibility for much of the following decade. Eventually, however, he stepped off the train—while many of his colleagues remained aboard.

Since post-structuralists argued that any attempt to provide a complete, closed system of meaning is reductive, essentialist, functionalist, and thus both impossible and oppressive, they cultivated a deep suspicion of totalizing explanations—what François Lyotard famously called “grand narratives” in the style of books like The Making of The Modern World: From The Renaissance to the Present (1955). To expose their exploitative nature, post-structuralists developed a method of reading known as deconstruction, whose modus operandi was to identify the operation of binary oppositions within texts, along with instances of essentialism, functionalism, and reductionism—all of which function as agents of power concealed as normative order. Having taken American academia by storm in the early 1980s, the post-structuralist theoretical corpus as a whole, and deconstruction in particular, exerted enormous influence on the writing of history, forcing it to rethink its procedures, methods, norms, and utility. Forcing it to entertain anew an old question: What is History?

Picture of Foucault

Michele Foucault in 1970. Source: Wikimedia Commons

I recently spoke with a middle-aged man who, after a long and highly successful career in business, had returned to his alma mater as a distinguished fellow. As an undergraduate in the late 1980s, he had majored in history at an Ivy League school, studying with some of the most prominent historians in the country. Three and a half decades later, he was eager to rekindle his passion for the past by taking history courses once again. Yet, to his surprise, he found the discipline almost unrecognizable: “We used to study the past as it happened. We were tested and quizzed relentlessly on the nuts and bolts of historical events and processes—the making of modern Germany, the Russian Revolution, the decline and fall of imperial China. But now it seems as if students already know the facts, and all they do in class is philosophize. Much of it is about the past as an experience—whatever that means. What happened?” “French theory happened,” I answered, but immediately added, “that it is not as bad as it looks.” It will take a book to explain what was lost and gained in the historical profession since the 1970s, and, not being a professional historian, Jameson sheds light only on some of these aspects, particularly about the utility of historical narrative.

However, if you return to read the grand historical narratives of the 1980s, especially histories of Africa, the Middle East, Asia, and possibly Latin America too, you will likely find them profoundly unsatisfactory for all the reasons that post-structuralists have listed. These histories were written largely with the source material of the European states which dominated, indeed colonized, much of these lands for centuries on end, thus structurally failing to account for the lived experiences of those who suffered under their rule. But even the national histories of Europe were lacking: entirely overlooking the history of women and working classes, to cite two glaring examples of how more than half of the nation’s population was not represented in the supposedly inclusive story of the nation. Consult the big histories of the Cold War and, until recently, you are not likely to understand how global and violent this war was, the exact opposite of what its name suggests. All of these were selective histories in need of serious revision.

The dissatisfaction with these canonical narratives was routinely treated as symptomatic of the many problems of professional history. Attacks and counter-attacks between historians and theoreticians animated the scholarly scene for some decades now, most recently in 2018 with the publication of the Theory Revolt Manifesto against academic history. On all sides, this is a substantial debate with some serious arguments and counter-arguments. At its very heart, however, lies the issue of narrative, its delegitimization on one hand, and the desire to have orienting grand narratives on the other. Today, many of our students are fluent in deconstructing texts, identifying how power flows through them, raising serious questions about why our national history “begins” at this particular date and not another (for instance, the 1619 Project, which seeks to unseat 1776 as the founding moment of the United States). That, however, is not to say that they actually “know” history, its facts and sequences in the sense that a student of the 1980s was expected to. Or that they can even, in the absence of a shared world of facts and sequences, think with it with some level of sophistication. Thus, by way of a criticism, many in the profession, students included, practice history as what Jameson himself calls “search and destroy missions” (437) of enemy texts and authors. That is highly unfortunate.  

Picture of Fredric Jameson

Fredric Jameson in 2004. Source: Wikimedia Commons

To move forward, we must reject the notion that theoretical engagement—assumed to be inherently progressive, emancipatory, and just—is incompatible with historical narrative, which is often presumed to be reactionary, oppressive, and exclusionary. Instead, we should harness the remarkable postmodern insights of the last few decades to imagine and write new narratives. If the integrity of political community is to be preserved, we need histories capable of incorporating postmodern critique without collapsing into post-Enlightenment cultural pessimism (“oppression is everywhere”) and without losing sight of the common good. Crafting such humanizing narratives, in academic scholarship, public history, school textbooks, and in film, too, is nothing less than an urgent cultural mission. Without them, we risk a slow descent into political tribalism and chauvinistic nationalism. 

For this reason, despite his deep investment in criticism and Theory, Jameson, in this final book, offers several statements advocating a renewed engagement with narrative. Reflecting on the impossibility of representing Derrida, he writes: “I don’t see how you can write a good book about Derrida,” since, by design, there is no central work or masterpiece—only a method of reading and a theoretical attitude (252). In a more direct statement, Jameson insists that “…narrative is important, because it’s very hard to see how you can have any kind of history without a historical narrative. History is a historical narrative. It’s not the facts” (116). This, arguably, is one of the most important lessons we can draw from the life and work of such an intellectual giant.

Yoav Di-Capua teaches modern Arab intellectual history. He is the author of Gatekeepers of the Arab Past: Historians and History Writing in Twentieth-Century Egypt (2009) and No Exit: Arab Existentialism, Jean Paul Sartre and Decolonization (2018). He is currently completing a new history of the Global 60s in the Arab world. His work was supported by the National Endowment for the Humanities and the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation in Germany and the Simon Guggenheim Foundation.

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Still Making Texas: Why David Montejano’s Anglos and Mexicans Matters in 2026

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“Anglos and Mexicans; Still Making Texas” 40 Anniversary Symposium will take place on February 20-21, 2026 at the University of Texas at Austin. More details at the end of the article.

When I first read Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986, it felt like I was reading about the entire world. My entire world. By that point, I had lived my entire life in the area under Montejano’s analysis. Some critics questioned Montejano’s methodological flexibility, yet for readers who grew up in that region, Anglos and Mexicans can explain everything. Unless you grew up wondering “Is Texas Bigger than the World-System?”, Anglos and Mexicans may not resonate as strongly. When I read Anglos and Mexicans, I hear strains of stories my grandfather told me about his father, the Hebbronville dairy farmer Robert McBryde. I see the mythologized King Ranch demystified. I remember stories my high school Ag teacher, Mr. Analiz, told me about how the palm tree and grapefruit came to Mission, brought by land speculators trying to entice Midwest Anglos to settle here. So, for me, readingAnglos and Mexicans represents the first time that evidence went deeper than the archive; it resonated from within. I knew that what was written was correct because I had lived it and heard decades of stories from those who had lived more of that history than I had. 

My response to Anglos and Mexicans is precisely the kind of engagement Montejano’s work invites. For a work of history to generate that degree of emotional and intellectual resonance is no small achievement. That Montejano’s study can still produce such an effect in me and in others speaks to the enduring force of its analysis. Rarely does a work of scholarship offer such sustained insight into a vexing social problem. Rarer still is the study that does so in a way that reshapes an emerging field. First published in 1987, David Montejano’s Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836–1986 has proven to be one of those foundational works, setting the terms for subsequent scholarship on race, power, and political economy in Texas.

To quote Texas: An American History author Benjamin Johnson, “David Montejano was country before country was cool. Long before the explosion of scholarly interest in borderlands in the 2000s, he asked penetrating questions about how Mexican-descent people made Texas society in the 150 years after the Texas Revolution.” Despite early criticisms of Anglos and Mexicans’ “heavy reliance on secondary sources,” or the “perceptible parochial view” of its author, those same reviewers praised “the imaginative scholarship and impressive scope of Montejano’s work” and claimed that “within the context of Texas historiography, it will have great impact and may become a classic.”[1]

Anglos and Mexicans book cover

Granted, Anglos and Mexicans was not the first attempt at a systemic–structural account of race-relations in the Southwest. But it was among the first to advance such an analysis so forcefully and coherently. To paraphrase reviewer Mario T. Garcia, the book is a defining “contribution to the revisionist historiography of the Southwest and West.”[2]

Though rooted in Texas, Anglos and Mexicans is not simply a foundational text in Texas history. It is a seminal work of Southwestern history, Chicane studies, borderlands studies, and the analysis of racial capitalism in the United States. Montejano’s method—which combined archival research, sociological analysis, and political economy—established a model for the interdisciplinary work that defines Ethnic Studies today. Since Anglos and Mexicans’ publication in 1987, there have been many groundbreaking works of scholarship whose authors explicitly draw from or cite the book as a pivotal influence. The Injustice Never Leaves You by Monica Muñoz Martinez; From South Texas to the Nation by John Weber; White Scourge by Neil Foley; and Working Women into the Borderlands by Sonia Hernández—among many others—come immediately to mind. Whether subsequent scholars have extended his insights, challenged his framework, or attempted to move beyond it, Anglos and Mexicans set the terms of debate on race and class in the Southwest.

What has made this book so impactful? By Montejano’s own assessment, “cultural analysis was the dominant analysis” prior to UT Press’ publication of Anglos and Mexicans in 1987. Anglos and Mexicans rejected the prevailing conflict of Anglo–Mexican relations as differences in “culture…value orientation” that triggered a “cultural clash…and the result [being] segregation,” as previous (Anglo) scholars did.[3] No, what set the book apart upon publication was its argument that “the diversity of Mexican–Anglo relations…reflected the various ways in which ethnicity was interwoven into the class fabric of these two societies.”[4] While a visiting professor at UC–Berkeley, a chance placement one floor under the office of famed economist Paul S. Taylor gave Montejano the “window to the past” he needed to make such bold proclamations.[5]  The result is a 150 year wide window into the Texas—Mexico border region’s transition from “pre-capitalist” or “semi-feudal” to “Modern;” in essence it opens into view the full process of Texas’ incorporation into the World System. In this sense, what happened between 1836 and 1986 in the Texas—Mexico border region was a local node in the centuries long, violent birth of the modern world. The dispossession of Mexican and Tejano land by Anglo settlers was not a repetition of the lord—serf contradiction that propelled European development over centuries, but instead a permutation in essence manifesting in alternate forms; a race—labor based social hierarchy. 

Using the “gold mine” in Taylor’s 1920s–1930s interviews with Nueces County Anglos, Montejano interpreted the unspoken intent of early twentieth century Anglo ranchers and merchants to illuminate the dominant ideologies of turn-of-the-century South Texas.[6] Montejano used Taylor’s interviews—alongside census data, land records, news articles—to authoritatively argue that systems of racial domination in South Texas evolved through distinct periods of incorporation, reconstruction, segregation, and integration. Those interviews exposed how systems of racial domination are inseparable from labor exploitation and land dispossession. Perhaps most importantly, Anglos and Mexicans demonstrated the utility of Montejano’s signature “relaxed class–analysis,” one that introduces “race or ethnicity into the whole discussion.”[7] In doing so, Montejano staked a position that neither strict cultural analysis nor Marxist orthodoxy was sufficient to explain the complex interplay of race and class.

Mexican cowboys branding cattle, old picture, no date

Mexican cowboys branding cattle. Source: Wikimedia Commons

The upcoming 40th anniversary of Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas offers a unique moment to assess the book’s generational impact. If some now consider the book dated, regionally limited, or overly traditional, that only sharpens the case for its reassessment. The strongest ideas can travel and adapt to new material conditions. Does Anglos and Mexicans’ insistence on the structural still offer a clever lens of analysis? What did—and does—Anglos and Mexicans mean to the three generations of scholars who have read and worked with it? What still resonates within its analysis? What remains insufficient or undertheorized? What has been left unresolved in the histories Anglos and Mexicans sought to narrate? How have Anglos and Mexicans continued to make Texas, 1986–2026? The Department of Mexican American and Latino/a Studies at UT Austin has organized “Anglos and Mexicans; Still Making Texas,” a symposium to address not only these questions but to imagine where the next forty years of Chicane, Borderlands, and Southwestern scholarship should be oriented. This symposium is more than a tribute. It is also an intervention and expansion. 

Because the “Making of Texas” is a project without a finish line, we gather this February not merely to celebrate a forty-year-old text, but to stress-test its framework against the urgent realities of 2026. While Montejano’s 1987 edition laid the groundwork for understanding land dispossession and labor regimes, the decades since have introduced new complexities—from the expansion of the carceral state and mass deportations to a deeper scholarly reckoning with gender and Indigeneity.  “Anglos and Mexicans; Still Making Texas” will take place February 20–21, 2026, at the Department of Mexican American and Latino/a Studies’ Gordon White Building. Across two days of panels, roundtables, and featured conversations, participants will return to Montejano’s central provocations: race and class as mutually constitutive social forces, uneven development as a regional condition, and “making Texas” as an ongoing political project. This symposium will be of interest not only to historians of Texas and the U.S.-Mexico borderlands but also to scholars, students, educators, and community members concerned with the long afterlives of land dispossession, labor regimes, racial formation, and state power in the Southwest.

The University of Texas at Austin, where Montejano studied, later taught for many years, and where his papers are now housed, will host the symposium as a homecoming celebrating his enduring contributions. Rooting this dialogue in the specific institutional memory of the Center for Mexican American Studies (CMAS) and MALS allows genealogical continuity while writing the future of Chicane and Latinx Studies. We invite scholars, students, educators, and community members to join us as we trace this intellectual genealogy and set its trajectory forward.

Ethen Pena is currently pursuing a PhD in Mexican American and Latino Studies at The University of Texas at Austin, with research centered on power dynamics, Anzaldúan theory, Radical Chicano Politics in the Southwest. He is dedicated to bridging academia and grassroots initiatives to inspire meaningful social change.


[1] David G. Gutierrez, “The Third Generation: Reflections on Recent Chicano Historiography: Mexicano Resistance in the Southwest. Robert Rosenbaum.; Let All of Them Take Heed: Mexican Americans and the Campaign for Educational Equality in Texas, 1910-1981 . Guadalupe San Miguel Jr.. ; Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986. David Montejano. ; The Texas-Mexican Conjunto: History of a Working Class Music . Manuel Pena,” Mexican Studies 5, no. 2 (1989): 293; James E. Crisp, “Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986,” The Journal of Southern History 55, no. 1 (1989): 143–44; Ellwyn R. Stoddard, “Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986,” Contemporary Sociology (Washington) 17, no. 4 (1988): 475; Crisp, “Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986,” 144.

[2] Mario T. Garcia, Review of Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986, by David Montejano, The American Historical Review 94, no. 4 (1989): 1185.

[3] Montejano oral history, VOCES.

[4] David Montejano, Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836-1986, 1st ed. (University of Texas Press, 1987), 245.

[5] Montejano oral history, VOCES.

[6] Montejano oral history, VOCES.

[7] Ibid.

The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

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Longhorns v. Aggies: The Way Rivalry in Sport Shapes History and Culture

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The “Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit is currently on display at the H.J. Lutcher Stark Center for Physical Culture and Sports at the University of Texas at Austin

I have lived in Texas my entire life. Because of this, the football game between the University of Texas and Texas A&M University has always played an integral part in the way my family experienced the Thanksgiving holiday. When I was a kid, we often spent the week at my grandparents’ farm in Temple, Texas, where they did not have cable television. So, when the Farmers and Longhorns played, my grandfather would rent a room at a little motel off the interstate highway, and we would all cram in together, sprawled across tiny beds with itchy comforters, and eat bad delivery pizza while watching the big game. My family, however, was all maroon. My grandfather graduated from A&M, my father graduated from A&M, and my younger sister is now a graduate of A&M. I was an anomaly in my family, an artist and writer, and by the time I was a sophomore in high school, I knew College Station wasn’t the place for me. I completed a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree in creative writing at Saint Edward’s University, a small, liberal arts school on the hilltop off South Congress Avenue here in beautiful Austin, Texas. And now, I work as the curator at the H.J. Lutcher Stark Center for Physical Culture and Sports, a world-renowned research library with significant gallery space that allows us to host public exhibitions at the University of Texas at Austin. This article is the first in a new series for Not Even Past exploring topics in sports history and the Stark Center archives, with a focus on developing exhibits in public spaces.

The Stark Center’s latest exhibit, called Longhorns v. Aggies, celebrates the long-running rivalry between the Texas Longhorns and Texas A&M Aggies, specifically the annual Thanksgiving Day football game.[1]  The 2025 game was the 120th matchup between the two schools’ football teams. It was the first time in fifteen years that a game between the Longhorns and Aggies was played at DKR-Texas Memorial Football Stadium.[2] Because of that hiatus, most of our current undergraduate students had no personal ties or first-hand connection to this historic game, commonly referred to as The Lone Star Showdown. So, when I sat down with Stark Center Museum Director Jan Todd and we began having conversations about an exhibit covering the long feud between Aggies and Longhorns, we decided that current students deserved to know about the highs and lows of this game’s past, as well as its influence on the cultures, traditions, and identities of each school. The result is an exhibit that attempts to show the complexities of the renewed rivalry.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center

The Origin of Powerhouse Athletics Programs

Although many people assume that The University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin) is the oldest state institution of higher learning, Texas Agricultural and Mechanical College (A&M) began educating students in engineering and agricultural science in 1876, seven years before UT Austin opened its doors to students. From those earliest times, however, the two schools regarded each other as rivals. UT Austin offered higher education focused on liberal arts and the humanities. Its campus was located in downtown Austin, the state capitol. The student body was co-ed from its inception. The Aggies, on the other hand, emphasized a curriculum centered on agriculture and engineering. Theirs was a rural campus with an all-male student body required to participate in Corps of Cadets military training. After the two schools began meeting for an annual football game in 1894, the frictions between the rural “Farmers” of A&M and the big-city “Steers” of Texas only grew. We tell “Aggie jokes.”[3] They call us “t-sips.”[4] The lyrics in each school’s fight song bids the other farewell.  The rivalry deepened as UT Austin won fourteen of the first seventeen games.[5] Folks in College Station were frustrated. 

In 1909, the Aggies hired Charley Moran as their new head football coach and assigned him one task: build a team that could beat Texas. After recruiting players from other successful collegiate programs in the American South, the A&M football team did just that, winning back-to-back games in the 1909 season and the lone game against Texas in the 1910 season. Tensions ran especially hot during this period. On-field play was remarkably violent with players from both teams regularly suffering major injuries. Off the field, supporters clashed, taunting and fighting each other—Longhorn fans once carried broomsticks and marched in a mockery of A&M’s Corps of Cadets, which led to a massive brawl. A University of Texas student suffered knife wounds in a rumble after the 1908 game–the wounds were non-fatal and A&M officials issued a sincere public apology. In 1911, the game was played on neutral territory in Houston, as the headline event of the city’s No-Tsu-Oh Festival. Texas defeated A&M 6-0 on a late game scoop-and-score fumble recovery. After the game, A&M’s Corps of Cadets marched on downtown Houston, taking over city blocks and instigating physical altercations with anyone perceived to be affiliated with the University of Texas. Swarms of police were required to restore the peace. In the aftermath, the Athletics Council at UT sent a telegram to the Athletics Council at A&M:


Dear Sir:
Referring to my telegram of November 8 and letter of November 9, I beg to inform you that the Athletic Council of The University of Texas has decided not to enter into any athletic relations with the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas for the year 1912.
Very respectfully,

W. T. Mather Chairman of the Athletic Council The University of Texas

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center

The Farmers’ Athletic Council was, apparently, fine with the idea and the schools did not face each other again until 1915.[6]

This is significant because the loss in revenue from the already ubiquitous rivalry, deemed the “richest attraction in the Southwest,” left both schools’ athletics programs teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.[7] Enter L. Theo Bellmont. In 1913, Bellmont was hired as the University’s first director of athletics. Bellmont’s hiring was promoted by Lutcher Stark, a great benefactor of Texas Athletics, who would later become the youngest man ever appointed to The Board of Regents.[8]

It was Bellmont’s job to organize physical education classes for men and to run the sports programs. One of his first acts was to establish an advisory board for Athletics and then to petition for his new Athletic Council to have financial oversight for running the games and raising funds. First, he appealed to President S. E. Mezes to grant him and the Athletic Council complete management of all athletic events. His wish was partially granted in 1913 and then fully in 1914. Second, he began the formation of a new athletic conference, the Southwest Athletic Conference. The Southwest Athletic Conference came to be known, more famously, as the Southwest Conference, which existed from 1915 until 1996 when Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Baylor moved to the Big XII Conference in search of television revenue from football and basketball games.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center

Meeting with A&M officials in “behind-closed-door sessions” in 1914, Bellmont was able to navigate a renewal of the rivalry between Aggies and Longhorns through the establishment of the Southwest Conference and a still unconfirmed agreement by the Aggies to fire Coach Charley Moran.[9] Essentially, the first pause in the Lone Star Showdown led both athletic departments to face their greatest crisis to date, very nearly bankrupting and ending them entirely. And the renewal of the rivalry, through the actions of Theo Bellmont, gave birth to the modern intercollegiate athletics program at the University of Texas.

Shaping the Exhibit
This past summer I was blessed with research help from Valeria Misakova, an undergraduate Stark Center intern, who normally attends Notre Dame University. Valeria spent dozens of hours scanning The Daily Texan and The Cactus yearbooks for information on these historically significant games and teams. Stark Center Archivist Caroline De La Cerda was a tremendous resource on this project, including connecting me with archivists at Texas A&M’s Cushing Library who helped accumulate assets related to Aggie history and culture that can’t be found in our own archive. Sports archivist Patty McCain and Stark Center Associate Director Kim Beckwith also contributed to helping us find artifacts to display and getting the history “right.”

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center


This exhibit, with its rich history, is shaped by chapters or subsections, rather than a rigid chronological organization. 
1. “The Kickoff” presents the origins of football at each school and the early matchups.
2. “Raising Cain” documents the colorful history of off-field hijinks.
3. “Siblings First, Rivals Second” memorializes the 1999 Bonfire Tragedy and the Unity response.
4. Untitled, the longest wall in the gallery and primary backdrop of the exhibit, features photographs and artifacts that showcase the history of the games played on the field, from 1915 all the way up to the game in 2024, highlighting specific decades for each team as well as recognizing the three Heisman Trophy winners that played in the Lone Star Showdown. 
5. Two walls, presented side-by-side in burnt orange and maroon, respectively, showcase the various cultures and traditions at each school, particularly those that were formed out of this rivalry.
6. “Cover Art” features a colorful collage of gameday programs spanning the past 100 years of games played between Texas and Texas A&M.[10]


“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center

If you have not been to the Stark Center, or you have not visited since we opened Longhorns v. Aggies, please drop by and explore our space and learn more about the history of this Texas-sized rivalry. The Stark Center is located on the 5th Floor of the North End Zone at DKR-Texas Memorial Football Stadium, open Monday-Friday, 9am until 5pm. There is no charge for admission, and all fans are always welcome in our space.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit.

“Longhorns v. Aggies” Exhibit. Courtesy of The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center

Kyle Martin has worked as the Curator of the Stark Center since September 2024. His primary fields of work are writing, designing, and curating new exhibits and other creative projects related to the promotion, marketing, and enhancement of the Stark Center and its missions. He also serves as the technical editor of Iron Game History.


 

[1] Or Thanksgiving-adjacent; Longhorn/Aggie football games have also regularly been played the day after Thanksgiving, as this year’s game was. The first time Aggies and Longhorns played football against each other on Thanksgiving Day was 1900. Since then, the game has, typically, been scheduled on or near the holiday.

[2] In 2011, Texas played Texas A&M at Kyle Field in College Station. The Longhorns won 27 – 25. At the conclusion of the 2011-2012 academic year, Texas A&M Athletics left the Big XII Conference to join the Southeast Conference, a move that shocked both fan bases and led to the Longhorns and Aggies no longer facing each other on a regular season schedule. The teams did not play again until 2024, at Kyle Field in College Station, when the Texas Longhorns played their inaugural season in the Southeast Conference, following their own departure from the Big XII. The pause in play was so monumental that state legislators attempted to pass bills forcing the restoration of the rivalry. They were unsuccessful in doing so. As a result, the 2025 match up was the first played in Austin—at DKR-Texas Memorial Football Stadium—in fifteen years.

[3] Here’s an example of an Aggie joke that scores points against A&M and the Longhorns’ other rival, OU:
Did you hear about the Aggie who moved to Oklahoma? The move raised the average IQ in both states.

[4] Or “Tea-sip” is a label that Aggie students gave to Longhorn students to mock their perceived “snootiness” or elitism, one who hoists a pinky up and sips at their tea.

[5] Played in the span of 14 years; the schools often played twice per season at this time. There were two games that ended in a tie (1902 and 1907). Also worth noting, the Aggies did not score a single point in their first 8 matchups against Texas.

[6] From a class paper by Bill Gunn and Jimmy Viramontes, “An Early Athletic Administration Problem at The University of Texas, A Problem Presentation” for ED. AD. 392. Dr. Kenneth E Mcintyre-Professor, by. Found in the Texas Athletics Media Archives, The H.J. Lutcher Stark Center for Physical Culture and Sports.

[7] Ibid

[8] Here, at the research center which bears his name, we credit H.J. Lutcher Stark as the “father of the Longhorn logo,” when he purchased blankets for the 1914 Texas football team that featured the image of a longhorn on them. This was the first time a longhorn logo—a full head and neck with details like eyes, fur, and spots—was used on official gear at the University of Texas, cementing the mascot/brand. 

[9] Gunn and Viramontes, “An Early Athletic Administration Problem.” Also note, Moran was beloved by the Farmers and colloquially referred to as “Uncle Charley” but hated by Longhorns who believed he coached his teams to seek out plays that would injure opposing players. In 1910, Longhorn fans developed a new cheer for football games against A&M: “To hell, to hell with Charley Moran, / and all of his dirty crew / If you don’t like the words of this song, / to hell, to hell with you.”

[10] What can football programs tell us about the past? As it turns out, plenty. The many Texas v. A&M football programs featured in this collage have helped to create the public images of both the Longhorns and Aggies as they evolved over time. Cover art has been used to foster traditions and emotions that surround the game experience, but also to mark changes in technology and historic events, giving us a glimpse into the mindset of Texas and A&M students through the years.

The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

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What is MACRI? Meet the Organization Showcasing Mexican American Civil Rights History in San Antonio and Beyond 

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This article is part of the series: History beyond Academia

MACRI Executive Director Dr. Sarah Z. Gould will be at UT Austin on February 19th, 2026. You can find more information about her talk at the end of this article.

Nestled in the heart of San Antonio, Texas, just west of downtown, lies the Mexican American Civil Rights Institute (MACRI), an organization dedicated to chronicling and sharing the history of Mexican American civil rights in the United States. It lies within the field of public history, which moves history beyond university classrooms and academic journals, bringing it into museums, community spaces, and online platforms where the public can engage with it directly. On October 22, 2025, I sat down with its executive director, Dr. Sarah Zenaida Gould, to talk about the organization, its beginnings, and its mission.   

“2018 and 2019, these were two big anniversary years in San Antonio,” Gould said, explaining that the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Hearings had been held in December of 1968 in the city. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights was established in 1957 by the federal government to address issues like discrimination that concern race, ethnicity, and culture in the United States. The 1968 hearing in San Antonio was “one of the first times that the federal government officially heard testimony about experiences of discrimination that Mexican Americans had throughout the Southwest” specifically. The hearings occurred just a few years after the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which were aimed at reducing discrimination for African Americans and set a precedent for civil rights to later be expanded to other minority groups. A conference was held in November 2018 in San Antonio to commemorate the event.

This was followed by a second conference in 2019 for the 50th anniversary of the Edgewood school walkouts, an event that took place in May of 1968, when over 400 Mexican American students protested for better and more equitable education by walking out of Edgewood High School in San Antonio. The conferences were significant as people involved in both the walkouts and the commission hearings gave testimonies about their experiences and how the events got more people involved in the Chicano Movement, politics, and community activism. These back-to-back conferences reignited interest in Mexican American history and, more importantly, in how to preserve it.  

For Gould, the conference was not just a spotlight on San Antonio’s Mexican American civil rights history, but also a race against time. “At the next big anniversary,” she warned, “most of those people would no longer be with us.” The question was simple and urgent: “how do you keep that history alive?” That question ultimately led to the creation of MACRI. The initial plan was just to create an exhibit that depicted Mexican American civil rights icons in San Antonio, but support from the city council, Mayor Ron Nirenberg, and the community was much more substantial than anticipated. Gould explained that it was at a cultural moment when a lot of people were thinking about equity within history. “One thing that we kept hearing from city council members and members of the public was why haven’t we had this before?”   

National Farm Workers Association protest buttons

National Farm Workers Association protest buttons. Source: Wikimedia Commons

MACRI began organizing itself with funding from the city and was officially incorporated on May 29, 2019. Gould was involved from the beginning and was asked to step into the position of Executive Director in 2020, partially to help the organization transition into a virtual space during the pandemic. This was when MACRI first began to flourish in its engagement and reach, creating a community despite everything happening in the world at the time. They began by having conversations about Mexican American civil rights in online events with historians and other experts, and noticed that over half the viewership was from outside the San Antonio area. “They were from all over,” Gould said. “That was particularly exciting.” Even when MACRI began to transition to having mostly in-person events as the pandemic eased up, they still received emails from people across the country, asking that virtual involvement remain in some form so that they could continue to participate in Mexican American history.   

One of MACRI’s goals is to make San Antonio’s role as the birthplace of Mexican American civil rights to the general public. This is already happening among guests who attend MACRI’s in-person and virtual events, celebrating moments when people stood up against injustice. Gould discussed how “for so many people, this history is part of their living present moment,” as they often had a personal connection to the stories MACRI was telling. Still, others were learning about it for the first time. Nearly all wanted to learn more.   

MACRI hosts a number of different events, including talks and exhibits with historians, activists, and more. These usually have themes, such as civil rights trailblazers or landmark court cases involving Mexican Americans. Their September 27 to November 26, 2025 exhibit was on Cisneros v. Corpus Christi ISD, an important civil rights case that extended school desegregation from Brown v. Board of Education to Mexican Americans. Brown occurred in 1954 and Cisneros in 1970. “So it takes a while for these things to happen,” Gould said. “You have to have those precedent-setting cases so that you can move the legislation forward.”  

Gould is already planning events well into next year, which will be the 250th anniversary of the United States. The events will aim to “[make] sure we’re inserting Mexican Americans into how we understand America.” They will start with Spanish colonial Texas and will move forward in time over the course of the year. The events and exhibits will include discussions of important court cases involving due process, and in the summer of 2026 they will host screenings for the 30th anniversary of the Chicano! History of the Mexican American Civil Rights Movement documentary series that originally aired on PBS in 1995. Gould will also be visiting a number of universities throughout the state, including the University of Texas at Austin, where she will be sharing more about what MACRI does with current students. 

A man walking in the old Mexican market area just west of downtown San Antonio

 In the old Mexican market area just west of downtown San Antonio. Source: Wikimedia Commons

When creating their in-person exhibits, MACRI tries to identify a scholar for whom that area of history is their subject matter expertise, whom they consult with. Their first exhibit was based on Dr. Cynthia Orosco’s biography Pioneer of Mexican-American Civil Rights: Alonso S.  

Perales for their trailblazers series. For the current exhibit on Cisneros, MACRI worked with Dr. Isabel Araiza at Del Mar College in Corpus Christi. Their goal with each project is to make the information accessible. “The idea with most exhibits is to give people just a slice of what that is, so that they have a basic understanding,” and then if they are interested in learning more, MACRI points them to more resources.   

MACRI has also done exhibits that were created through collaborations with local schools. Earlier in 2025, they did an exhibit for Dolores Huerta’s 95th birthday. Huerta is a Mexican American civil rights activist who is best known for being the co-founder of the United Farm Workers Association, a labor rights organization, alongside Cesar Chavez. MACRI’s exhibit on Huerta was created by sending out a call for art submissions to schools across the San Antonio area. “I have to thank the teachers whom we sent this out to, because clearly they talked to their kids about who she was,” Gould commended. “A number of them incorporated quotes from her into their artwork, and in their artist statement… You could just tell that they had been really reflecting on ‘Why does she matter to me?’ ‘Why does she matter to my family?’ ” She praised the teachers multiple times, stating that MACRI had only given them parameters and a brief synopsis of Huerta’s life, but she “could tell the teachers went above and beyond what we provided them, because the students clearly put a lot of thought into what they were drawing or painting, and connecting that to her life.” This was part of an initiative to get students more involved with history museums, which tend to cater to and attract an adult audience, unlike art and science museums. But the success of the project showed that it is far from impossible to get children to engage with history.   

Gould also discussed the challenges and opportunities that working beyond academia brings. The most difficult thing she cited was the lack of infrastructure available to her and the other employees at MACRI, including things like access to research databases. But there are positives too, the most prominent of which is the freedom from constraints of university timelines. Historians who work for universities are tied to both the academic calendar and making sure they are hitting the goalposts in their careers, such as tenure review. But as a public history organization, MACRI can do things on its own time.   

Still, Gould has hope for bridging the divide between the two fields. “I would love to see more collaboration between universities and people who are independent historians outside of academia,” Gould said. “Because you know, the universities do have resources that public historians could really benefit from, and public historians do have typically… connections to real grassroots-type history that could be of a benefit to students to know about.” With its exhibits, events, and media outreach, MACRI is working to bridge the gap. But to reach this goal, universities and historians within academia have to do their part to connect with public history as well. By remaining dedicated to continued collaboration between the public, academics, and everyone in between, MACRI is a model example of what these types of connections can look like, reshaping how American history is told. 

Flyer for Dr. Sarah Z. Gould's talk at UT Austin. February 19, 2026, 2:30 pm at Garrison Hall 4th floor

Kara Alexandra Culp is a current history PhD student at UT Austin, focused on Latina/o history in the 20th-century United States. Her dissertation project aims to explore the effects of education policy and law on Latina/o immigrant students in the borderlands in the 1970s and beyond.


Sarah Zenaida Gould, interview with author. October 22, 2025.   


The views and opinions expressed in this article or video are those of the individual author(s) or presenter(s) and do not necessarily reflect the policy or views of the editors at Not Even Past, the UT Department of History, the University of Texas at Austin, or the UT System Board of Regents. Not Even Past is an online public history magazine rather than a peer-reviewed academic journal. While we make efforts to ensure that factual information in articles was obtained from reliable sources, Not Even Past is not responsible for any errors or omissions.

Filed Under: Features, History Beyond Academia, Texas, United States Tagged With: 20th Century, Public History, US History

AVAnnotate:  A Research and Teaching Tool for Creating Digital Exhibits and Editions with Audiovisual Recordings

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Not Even Past and AVAnnotate will soon be partnering to develop new collaborative initiatives that connect readers with NEP content. More to come.

The first historical recordings that piqued my interest were made by my fellow Floridian Zora Neale Hurston in a studio in Jacksonville, Florida, in 1939. Recorded on June 18 at the Federal Music Project Office of the Work Projects Administration (WPA) with Carita Doggett Corse, Herbert Halpert, and Stetson Kennedy, these are unusual and rich texts to study. They document a Black, female ethnographer performing African American stories and songs for a White audience, both in the recording studio, where her fellow ethnographers can be heard asking her questions, and for the white listeners at the Library of Congress who would later receive the recordings. These 1939 recordings are shockingly well-produced (even as they are sometimes difficult to understand) and are now digitized and online. All of these factors make recordings like these interesting artifacts. They include the circumstances of the recording, the transposition of the original acetate disks onto reel­to­reel tapes, their digitization, and how curators described them in catalogs that now form the metadata through which they are discoverable in the archive and online. 

Zora Neale Hurston with Rochelle French and Gabriel Brown, Eatonville, Florida, June 1935

Zora Neale Hurston with Rochelle French and Gabriel Brown, Eatonville, Florida, June 1935. Photograph by Alan Lomax. Courtesy of Library of Congress

It can be difficult for scholars, students, and the public to use audiovisual (AV) collections at libraries, archives, and museums (LAMs) in research and teaching. Because accessing these materials often requires specialized equipment, expertise, and time, LAMs with diverse AV collections might not prioritize their preservation. In addition, LAMs report that there are few accessible technologies and examples for how to use digital AV cultural heritage materials in the classroom, in research, or in public contexts.[1] LAMs remain in the early stages of working through the politics, protocols, and systems of access.

 I’m trained primarily in textual studies and modernist literature, but I’ve spent many years using and creating digital tools with all kinds of texts (including print documents, manuscripts, and audio recordings). Reflecting on the significance of archival audio recordings to literary study is the focus of my recent book, Dissonant Records: Close Listening to Literary Archives. It seems ironic to write a print book about sound recordings, but it is technically much simpler to teach and do research with text in print. You can hand it around; you can mark it up with underlines and words in the margins like “interesting!” You can highlight key passages or moments and use them to support discussion and interpretation. Scholarly editions have long fulfilled this role for textual sources in a formal, institutionalized way; more recently, digital editions and exhibits have served a similar function. Still, I wanted a way to directly share the context (and my thoughts about it) around underutilized and culturally important AV collections like those I write about in my book.

To achieve this, I developed AVAnnotate with the help of my team and the support of funding from the American Council of Learned Societies and the Mellon Foundation. AVAnnotate facilitates making projects with an AV player and user-generated annotations. Plus, adding essays, notes, and index terms served my needs as a scholar and teacher and helped me tell my story about these recordings. There are more technical details in the documentation, but some of the principles behind the technical development include that AVAnnotate is open-source software that leverages the International Image Interoperability Framework (IIIF)[2] standard for AV materials and GitHub in a minimal computing workflow[3] that simplifies creating standards-based, user-generated, online projects. These principles underlie an easy-to-use dashboard on the backend where users can create AVAnnotate annotations that take four forms in the published project (see Figure 1). There are (1) long-form notes that could be transcriptions (see “My name is Zora Neale Hurston . . . “ or more like the sort of marginalia one might find in a print scholarly edition (see the note beginning “Man singing with instruments . . .”); (2) index terms or “tags” (such as “Zora Neale Hurston,” “Song,” or “Unknown singing with instruments”) that facilitate organizing, searching, and visualizing types of annotations and important concepts; (3) tag groups to further facilitate filtering groups of tags (e.g. “Environment,” “Speaker,” and “Nonspeech”); (4) timestamps (e.g., 12:50-13:01) that help situate the notes and index terms. These kinds of annotations mark how and to what we listen in these recordings, just as editorial choices and marginalia notes mark how and what editors and authors find significant in specific versions of manuscripts and printed texts.

AVAnnotate page from “Zora Neale Hurston’s WPA field recordings in Jacksonville, FL (1939)”

Figure 1: AVAnnotate page from “Zora Neale Hurston’s WPA field recordings in Jacksonville, FL (1939)”

Collecting institutions, researchers, teachers, and the public have used AVAnnotate for a variety of purposes in their desire to make AV more accessible. Librarians from the Benson Latin American Collection at the University of Texas at Austin have created multiple exhibits. Some projects highlight radio programs, including the Latin American Press Review Radio Collection to showcase radio programs from the Longhorn Radio Network airing from 1973 to 1974 that covered all of Latin America and the Caribbean, and Radio Venceremos, the rebel radio station that broadcast from the mountains of Morazán, El Salvador, during the eleven-year Salvadoran Civil War (1981-1992). Benson librarians and I have also used AVAnnotate to share recordings from historical symposia, including the Benson’s Speak-Out! Charla! Bate-Papo! Contemporary Art and Literature in Latin America Symposium held October 27-29, 1975, at the University of Texas at Austin (transcriptions provided in both English and Spanish), and my own edition of the Harvard 1953 Summer Conference on “The Contemporary Novel,” which includes recently discovered recordings of panels and lectures from literary luminaries such as Ralph Ellison.

Researchers have used AVAnnotate to discuss historical cinema, poetry readings, podcasts, and oral histories. Jack Riordan created a bilingual AVAnnotate project around his interviews with Cuban filmmaker Lester Hamlet, exploring Hamlet’s poetry, archival materials, and cultural contexts. He also developed a separate project on Auteurism, examining the theory through filmmakers such as Stanley Kubrick, Wes Anderson, Tomás Gutiérrez Alea, Andrei Tarkovsky, and Akira Kurosawa. In addition to oral histories, interviews, and cinema, other projects showcase research around poetry readings and podcasts. Of special note, ​​researchers from the SpokenWeb partnership created the SpokenWeb UAlberta in 360° to present a fusion of past and present technology. This project brings together artifacts created for and at the 2025 SpokenWeb Sound Institute, with special emphasis on author reactions to a 360° video made of author reactions to literary recordings from the 1960s-1980s played back on a 1960s Sony TC-102 portable reel-to-reel tape player in the same Edmonton locations where they were originally recorded decades earlier.

Educators in particular find AVAnnotate useful both for teaching students about historical AV recordings and for giving students the opportunity to create their own projects. The Educational Project for John Beecher, McComb “Criminal Syndicalism” Case project is an example of working with and annotating sensitive audio using a recording from the John Beecher Sound Recordings Collection at the University of Texas’s Harry Ransom Center. In this recording, John Beecher and members of the Council of Federated Organizations (COFO) meet with high school students arrested on charges of criminal syndicalism after their release from jail in McComb, Mississippi, on October 19, 1964. The project includes: the audio annotated with research about the recording’s social and historical context and a full transcription; two lesson plans for instructors to use AVAnnotate and this recording in a high school classroom with one in-person and one asynchronous lesson plan; the asynchronous, student-facing lesson that is ready to use in the classroom; and an example student collaborative project that teachers could build by the end of either lesson. Other projects are the result of students in a cinema class creating a project about Identity and Embodiment in the Stella Adler Collection, the RHE 306 Anthologydeveloped by students asked to produce original audio or video compositions paired with annotations and a transcript that examine rhetorical strategies, and the  Literary Sound Studies: English 483 Class Anthology where student annotations represent an analysis of voice, rhythm, silence, and audience with a focus on how literature is performed and heard.

AVAnnotate is currently released as a stable version. Our resources include documentation,  examples, and tutorials. Our general user guidelines have been developed for Collecting Institutions, Researchers, Educators, and the Public. Additionally, the AVAnnotate team has collaborated with partnering organizations including a community of scholars, information professionals, and teachers to produce Principles of Engagement that discuss guidelines around using tools like AVAnnotate to create contextual information for AV artifacts outside of collecting institutions where they have been processed, preserved, and made accessible. The kind of “round-trip” sharing of resources—from libraries, archives, and museums (LAMs) to the community and back into the LAM system—that AVAnnotate has the potential to create inspires a technical and social ecosystem that will increase the responsible use and sustainability of cultural heritage AV. My hope is that AVAnnotate encourages more ethical, human-centered, and community-shared approaches to knowledge production. 


Tanya E. Clement is the Director of the Humanities Institute and the Robert Adger Law and Thos. H. Law Centennial Endowed Professor in Humanities in the Department of English at the University of Texas at Austin. Her primary areas of research are textual studies, sound studies, and infrastructure studies as these concerns impact academic research, research libraries, and the creation of research tools and resources in the digital humanities. In her most recent project, AVAnnotate, funded by the Mellon foundation, she seeks to increase access to AV recordings in research and teaching by developing an application and a workflow for presenting user-generated, digital editions and exhibits with AV. Her book Dissonant Records: Close Listening to Literary Archives was published by MIT Press in August 2024.


[1] Council on Library and Information Resources (CLIR) and the Library of Congress. The State of Recorded Sound Preservation in the United States: A National Legacy at Risk in the Digital Age. Washington DC: National Recording Preservation Board of the Library of Congress, 2010.

[2] IIIF is a standardized solution that libraries and archives have adopted to give users the ability to perform scholarly methods for research and teaching using third-party platforms like AVAnnotate. More information on the IIIF background to the beta-version of AVAnnotate (AudiAnnotate) is discussed in https://www.digitalhumanities.org/dhq/vol/16/2/000586/000586.html.

[3] See Clement, Tanya, et al. “The AudiAnnotate Project: Four Case Studies in Publishing Annotations for Audio and Video.” Digital Humanities Quarterly, vol. 016, no. 2, June 2022.

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